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Old 05-07-2007, 02:13 PM   #1
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I didn't say speed limits were stupid, you did. I said that speeding, in general is a fee fishing expedition. Everyone in NY is doing 80 on the highway, posted speed is 65, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. Oh and speeding was the only crime in the NY trooper case, I've never been through police training and I know you don't try to run down an excellent motorcycle driver with a truck, that trooper is lucky he didn't wipe out a family of six. Lastly, I have family in federal law enforcement, local law enforcement and Sheriff dept. They all speed when they are not on duty, go figure...
Well, well, well *L* Obviously you weren't a "gunner" in medical school *LOL*

Here is my direct quote:

"Personally, I don't think speeding tickets and speed limits are stupid;..."

Where am I saying speed limits are stupid? Nowhere. I'm just including my opinion of them along with the opinion I hold for speeding tickets.

As for NY drivers, forgive me, I haven't lived in the Tri-state area since the late 90s and I sometimes forget how everyone there is so much more busy and important than the rest of Amerika. It is a shame about the officer that lost their life. Not being one (like you), I don't imagine I know what I'd do if I was faced with such a thing as a capricious youth on a cycle. I'd be concerned that he might cause an accident and HOPE that if I gave chase with sirens that the speeder would do the "right" thing, like our friend TriGem who may have only been mildly deceptive (?) when trying to exit. Obviously, we'll never know, but that is what I choose to believe.

Finally, just a point about arguments. You end with a fallacy that is generally referenced as "an appeal to authority". I mean, it's all well and good that you have family and know people in law enforcement, but seriously, just because they speed... that doesn't make it right or would you argue it does? Do you run the red light at 2 am because nobody else is up and the 4-way intersection is clear? I don't know.

Edit: Not sure about the murderer or rapist charges as we are currently looking at 2 cases of motorbike infractions nationwide. I do wonder though, do murderers and rapists drive their getaway cars more slowly? Or does that change the "chase mentality" making it more justified?
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Old 05-07-2007, 02:28 PM   #2
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TriGem,

Just glad that neither you nor the public were injured in that type of speed! I think you have to be very lucky:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/enforce/speedlaws501/toc/caspeed.pdf

If you read the >=100mph section you will find that they could have impounded your vehicle for 6 months as well. (Starts pg 29)

Tell your dad asap... don't let that fester or your dad will wonder about any other things you may or may not have done.

Best of luck to you, join your local Porsche club and take it to the track!
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" like our friend TriGem who may have only been mildly deceptive (?) when trying to exit. Obviously, we'll never know, but that is what I choose to believe."

CFOS - What is that supposed to mean? I didn't exit the highway nor change lanes until the Officer was on my tail with Lights and Sounds. If I had any thought of getting away why would I even slow down from 154MPH? What are the chances the officer would have got me if I continued that speed and maybe took an exit 5-10miles down the road?

Come on don't put words in my mouth or assume things I haven't said.

FrankPatrick - That’s the same thing I read on the CA DMV website. I just hope they don't go with the 30days license suspension.

Husker - I did not post this thread thinking "I can't believe I got caught" or "I hate law enforcement". I admit wrong therefore did man up to what has been done. Now just trying to figure out the best approach to be able to keep my driving privilege
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" like our friend TriGem who may have only been mildly deceptive (?) when trying to exit. Obviously, we'll never know, but that is what I choose to believe."

CFOS - What is that supposed to mean? I didn't exit the highway nor change lanes until the Officer was on my tail with Lights and Sounds. If I had any thought of getting away why would I even slow down from 154MPH? What are the chances the officer would have got me if I continued that speed and maybe took an exit 5-10miles down the road?

Come on don't put words in my mouth or assume things I haven't said.
I'm not trying to put words into your mouth or make assumptions (hence the "?" -- see above). The way your story reads is that you pull over hoping that the police officer was going to go after the BMW, right? If THAT had happened, would you have gone up to the cop afterwards and accepted a ticket? Hell no. You would have likely pulled off at an exit parked somewhere off the road and sat for a hour or two hoping that no one came back, right? Then, instead of using "Deeeep trouble" your thread would have read "Cloooose Call". You gambled and lost. Rather than asking why you would slow down from 154, the better question would be what drove you to 154 in the first place. Seriously. Lots of people have piped in about speeding, but I haven't seen one say they topped 150 off the track.

Edit: Oh yeah, let's not forget that you are trying to NOT involve your dad in this even though you are on his insurance policy -- isn't that right?
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