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03-27-2007, 05:37 PM
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Think this can be fixed??
Anyone think this can be fixed??? 2002 Carrera 2. Most damage is to front fender, passenger door and bumper. 
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03-27-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Boxster02
Anyone think this can be fixed??? 2002 Carrera 2. Most damage is to front fender, passenger door and bumper. |
911 is unibody, ie intergrated frame and body.
Almost certain this has "frame damage" which is a very very big no no.
My advice, stay away.
I have been there. This is a very very big black hole.
Good luck!
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03-27-2007, 06:26 PM
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Well....this is my car and was just wondering if it looked fixable. Front end slammed into a tree. Insurance will have an answer by the end of the week.
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03-27-2007, 06:30 PM
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I would guess they'll call it a total loss, but it'll be close. Are you O.K.?
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03-27-2007, 06:35 PM
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Like Grizzly said, I hope you and your passanger are OK. Both air bags blown. Scary.
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03-27-2007, 06:54 PM
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Whoa! Are you alright? Don't even try to fix it,you may want it back but it's not gonna be the same car as before.
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03-27-2007, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Boxster02
Well....this is my car and was just wondering if it looked fixable. Front end slammed into a tree. Insurance will have an answer by the end of the week.
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Well, ANYTHING is fixable but that is not the same as whether one SHOULD fix it.
Glad you are OK, that is the main thing, right!
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03-27-2007, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Brucelee
Well, ANYTHING is fixable but that is not the same as whether one SHOULD fix it...
Or whether it can be restored to anywhere near it's pre-accident condition and feel
Glad you are OK, that is the main thing, right!
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03-27-2007, 07:38 PM
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It's hard to tell from pictures, but I doubt the car is totaled. My opinion is that they will make you fix it.
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03-27-2007, 08:11 PM
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I agree with Paul. It's been many yrs since I dabbled in the rebuilder market and this may have changed, but I believe the rule of thumb is salvage value of a car is 25% of its value. So the repair cost would need to be at least 65-70% of the value before the ins co would consider it a total loss. Hard to tell exactly how much damage was sustained but it doesn't look close to being totaled.
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03-28-2007, 03:59 AM
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it looks like the frame damage is isolated to the front clip, but it's hard to tell without removing body panels. if this is the case, the front clip (entire portion in front of the windshield) can be removed and replaced with a new or used front clip. these are welded on in a jig. at any rate, this will be an expensive fix. they may or may not make you fix it. i think they will understand that the rear end of the car is not damaged and is worth a LOT when parted out. let us know.
``i just took a second look at your pictures. not sure if there is frame damage. the panel seams on the driver's side of the car look evenly spaced with no excessive step / gap. this potentially indicates a sound frame. again, let us know.
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03-28-2007, 02:23 PM
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Insurance Co. ( Allstate ) says the car is a total. I think it is complete Bull$hit. I know it can be fixed back to normal. They didn't even give me a written estimate of what would be the repair bill. 
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03-28-2007, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Boxster02
Insurance Co. ( Allstate ) says the car is a total. I think it is complete Bull$hit. I know it can be fixed back to normal. They didn't even give me a written estimate of what would be the repair bill. |
But, isn't this a good thing?
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03-28-2007, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Boxster02
Insurance Co. ( Allstate ) says the car is a total. I think it is complete Bull$hit. I know it can be fixed back to normal. They didn't even give me a written estimate of what would be the repair bill. |
Lets be rigorous here. You clearly DON'T know that the car can be reparied "back to normal." That is the question you asked US to start this thread. If you knew the answer, why did you ask us?
Secondly, the insurance company is not interested in whether the car can be fixed as much as what the most cost effective route is FOR THEM. If they believe the better deal for them is to pay you off and sell the car for salvage, that is where they are headed.
Based on the insurance contract you have with them, my bet is that they have that right.
I get that you would like your car fixed but it appears that boat has sailed.
As someone who has seen Porsches with body/frame damage that has been "fixed", I can tell you I would not want one.
Good luck, buy another!
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03-28-2007, 02:49 PM
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Your better off with it totaled. Even if repairable, your car would never be worth the same as the same car without an accident history (read Carfax!).
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03-28-2007, 02:54 PM
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Based on the insurance contract you have with them, my bet is that they have that right.
I get that you would like your car fixed but it appears that boat has sailed.
As someone who has seen Porsches with body/frame damage that has been "fixed", I can tell you I would not want one.
Good luck, buy another!
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03-28-2007, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Brucelee
As someone who has seen Porsches with body/frame damage that has been "fixed", I can tell you I would not want one.
Good luck, buy another!
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Thank your good fortune and get another. Porsches have been totaled for alot less apparent damage and no airbag deployment:
http://986forum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=82671&postcount=11
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03-28-2007, 03:17 PM
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Accept the check from the Insurance company and if you truly believe the car can be repaired or have some other sentimental reason for wanting it. Buy it back at the salvage rate.
The important thing is you are still here to make these decisions!
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03-30-2007, 09:06 AM
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I guess you are all right. I had the car 2 weeks ( no down payment ) and I'll make $8100. Thats how much of a deal I got when I bought it. Guess I'll take my $8100 in free money and apply it towards a newer one. Things could be worst, look at Eddie Griffin and the Enzo.
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03-30-2007, 09:23 AM
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LOL...fixed?? LOL
PLEASE let us know if they end up trying to fix it so we can put the scarlet red letter on its VIN#.
Dude its a sensitive sports car, not 4 ton SUV. Once things get clobbered like that you never know what unknown problem is going to surface. I mean a hard day at the track/autocross can make a car feel nervous and loose afterwards. I can only imagine what 60mph to 0mph into a wall will do to its sports car karma.
I'm guessing its worth more parted up. Even the The uncrashed Carreras are sinking in value fast.
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