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Old 03-15-2007, 08:59 AM   #1
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I have what i call the Pin Ball Machine protection method... a Walther P22 LR, its a .22 caliber handgun. Very reliable, low recoil, highly accurate and pretty good looking to boot. I call it Pin Ball cause if one of these rounds makes it through the rib cage, it will likely bounce off another rib or the spine from the inside and change direction... Its like being shot once from the outside and then 2 or 3 more times from the inside.

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I have the 3.4 inch barrel version but upgrade to the 5inch cost about 90 bucks however the compensator is non-function but supplies you with more accurate shots as well as counter weight and more balanced feel.
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Old 03-15-2007, 09:09 AM   #2
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Dang, that little .22 is cute, almost looks like a grown up gun! My bedside piece is a .45 cal Springfield Armory TRP Operator with a Surefire X200 light on the rail. My wife always says I'll just sleep through anyone breaking in, but I think my Spider sense will wake me up...
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Old 03-15-2007, 09:22 AM   #3
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Dang, that little .22 is cute, almost looks like a grown up gun! My bedside piece is a .45 cal Springfield Armory TRP Operator with a Surefire X200 light on the rail. My wife always says I'll just sleep through anyone breaking in, but I think my Spider sense will wake me up...
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Old 03-15-2007, 09:27 AM   #4
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Jeff, you live in Michigan...we already assumed you had the minimum number (10) of semi and fully automatic weapons required by state law.
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:18 PM   #5
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Jeff, you live in Michigan...we already assumed you had the minimum number (10) of semi and fully automatic weapons required by state law.
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Machine guns are illegal in MI, but if they were'nt I'd own a few. Of course we shouldnt call them machine. . . .just something more friendlier. How about "repeatative."

Excuse me but I'm leaving to go online to purchase some green tea pungi sticks, enviromental friendly smokeless gunpowder with cinnamon spice scent, Free Range steel core ammunition, happy handgrenades, "somerassault" weapons for toddlers, lead-free plasticine bullets, redsand-putty Claymore mines and some "natures' way-LAW rockets -all for my home. Gotta feed Fluffy the friendly attack dog, buy some acid free wire cage for my dive-bombing homing pidgeons, and make sure to put a warning sticker for my new Tesla selectric/electric security system, so I don't get sued.

Boy, JAAY's got me paranoid after his attempted break-in. I'm acting and sounding crazy.. . . .what was that noise???
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:23 PM   #6
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CJ,

Actually the shotgun with the right loads, even buckshot, would be LESS likely to penetrate as many walls as your .22, or any other pistol or rifle. See, round balls lose velocity pretty quick.

Check out www.boxotruth.com for some practical penetration tests. You might be surprised.

As far as someone you shoot with a .22 wanting to watch Discovery HD with you...

Some hyped up crackhead kicking in your door isn't likely to be persuaded, or much affected by such a small round.

I hope you never have to find out that your .22 is inadequate.
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Dang, that little .22 is cute, almost looks like a grown up gun! My bedside piece is a .45 cal Springfield Armory TRP Operator with a Surefire X200 light on the rail. My wife always says I'll just sleep through anyone breaking in, but I think my Spider sense will wake me up...
It is cute isnt it... Had to get something low caliber do that if the GF needed to fire it, she could without getting scared of the recoil. I was thinking of getting a Stainless Ruger p95 but 9mm is too scary for the gf to fire.
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Old 03-15-2007, 10:14 AM   #8
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I recall reading a couple years ago about some terrorists throwing up a roadblock and trying to kidnap a member of the Colombian olympic marksmanship team. He took out his .22 target pistol and calmly dispatched them all. I guess caliber is much like horsepower...it isn't how much of it you have, it's how well you can use it. See, this thread does belong on the Box board.
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I recall reading a couple years ago about some terrorists throwing up a roadblock and trying to kidnap a member of the Colombian olympic marksmanship team. He took out his .22 target pistol and calmly dispatched them all. I guess caliber is much like horsepower...it isn't how much of it you have, it's how well you can use it. See, this thread does belong on the Box board.
There is .22 and there is high powered .22 like the high velocity .223 hornet or 5.56 NATO round used in the M-16 (and others). I don't think a .22LR will bounce around much or do much damage unless it hits a vital organ.

Now an M-16 hit is likely to ricochet internally if it hits bone. But not if it only strikes soft tissue.

For larger caliber you want more mass and less velocity for knock-down power. My .45 ACP rounds do this nicely. I just prefer a revolver for home defense. Less chance of jam. And many of us old timers don't like to keep a round in the .45 chamber. But if you don't keep one there, chambering a round gives an assailant a wake-up call to shoot first.
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some people put a sticker from an alarm company on their door and a sign in their front yeard. Insurance companies claim that, statistically, criminals decide against breaking into a house when crossing these visuals. They'd rather go with a simplest target (which makes sense)...So, that's the cheapest way to be safer. Getting the real thing is evidently better but buying these stickers/ signs on ebay for a few bucks cannot hurt if you don't have the money for an alarm...gotta be creative sometimes!
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Funny, I was just reading on another forum how British cops don't carry guns.

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Old 03-15-2007, 11:01 AM   #12
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Old 03-15-2007, 11:10 AM   #13
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CJ... Get a bigger gun.

A .22 is NOT a good option for self defense. It is probably THE least likely to stop a threat.

The best option (and this is my opinion, and opinions on this subject will widely vary) would be a decent 9mm autoloader. A Glock 19, Beretta 92F, CZ75B...

It is very VERY unlikely you'll ever need it... but it's like car insurance, and the .22 just won't cover you.
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Yeah, Suffolk County is notorious for crack-heads and other types of vagrants. I'm sure this couldn't have been an isolated incident and that buying yourself a gun is clearly the only way to protect yourself.

If you become engaged in a running shoot-out through the mean streets of Brookhaven, be sure to come back and post about it on the board, or have a surviving relative post about it. And don't forget to carry your gun in the Boxster like some of our other armed forum members. Always a good idea !

That's how we roll on the North Shore !!!
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