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Old 03-01-2012, 07:22 AM   #54
fivepointnine
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Originally Posted by pothole View Post
Lotus has basically never been profitable selling Elise based cars. Kind of amazing, but apparently true. It's now in the process of dumping its light weight strategy in favour of a range of significantly heavier, higher specced cars. A total travesty if you ask me, but perhaps commercially necessary?

Spyder hasn't been that huge a commercial success this side of the pond. For a long while after production ended, there were a bunch of them knocking around UK dealers being offered below list.

How good the Cayman R is, is irrelevant to what the market demands. I don't think the Cayman R was a huge success, either. Brilliant car, but most people with the necessary funds aren't full-on enthusiasts.

As I keep saying, my preference is for light weight, simple sports cars with manual boxes, minimal driver aids, natural aspiration etc. But I'm not remotely convinced there's a large consumer demand for light weight sports cars and that's why so few are made.

I know very clearly what I like, but I'll give Porsche credit for knowing better what the market wants.
the new Toyota/Subraru is a step in the right direction, but it has glaring problems I cannot overlook.
1-not near enough power compared to most cars on the road today
2-not enough rubber on the road.....215 width tires? really?
3-price-approching the price of a base WRX, which is a MUCH faster, equally as well handling car
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