12-19-2006, 06:24 PM
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"The M3 is a fine street automobile from any standpoint. The GT3 is a race car.
It would be silly to compare them, no?"
Originally Posted by Brucelee .
You correct me if I'm wrong, but the M stands for "Motorsport," not street car. Yes, she's a fine street automobile, but I wouldn't say it is silly to compare.
I love the M3 - but it's too bad so many people own 3 series. They are so common here anymore, they all look like Hondas to me.
Coupe would be the only way to go for me if I got one - but when I had the choice - I bought a Porsche..
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12-19-2006, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by C5150
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"The M3 is a fine street automobile from any standpoint. The GT3 is a race car.
It would be silly to compare them, no?"
Originally Posted by Brucelee .
You correct me if I'm wrong, but the M stands for "Motorsport," not street car. Yes, she's a fine street automobile, but I wouldn't say it is silly to compare.
I love the M3 - but it's too bad so many people own 3 series. They are so common here anymore, they all look like Hondas to me.
Coupe would be the only way to go for me if I got one - but when I had the choice - I bought a Porsche..
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I will stand by what I wrote. The M car is still a street car that costs, like 60% of the GTC? No back seat in the GT3 etc.
No comparison.
A fairer comparison (a BIT more so) would be a M version of the Z4 but even there, the price is way out of whack.
I would try comparing a ZO6 to a GT3. That would be fairer I think.
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12-19-2006, 06:29 PM
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Meant to add....
I'm sure that someone can help me on if this is truly fact or not - but didn't BMW brag about how their M3 race cars were almost completely stock?! So, it IS a race car - right.....?
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12-20-2006, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by C5150
Meant to add....
I'm sure that someone can help me on if this is truly fact or not - but didn't BMW brag about how their M3 race cars were almost completely stock?! So, it IS a race car - right.....?
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Ah, no they did not.
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12-20-2006, 05:44 AM
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news flash...its not about the boxster being a chick car, its about how much they love the look of the boxster. most women think my cars pretty dam sexy. my car looks mean, and no chick would look better in it then i
bmw's are chick cars
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12-20-2006, 07:28 AM
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"Ah, no they did not."
Originally Posted by Brucelee
Ah, yes they did. I believe that the M3 was designed to get into German Touring car racing - and had to be of a production line - with stock engine, etc..
And I know I watched a show on BMW racing, where the racing team spokesman specifically spoke to it being mostly stock - and how successfull this made sales due to the impressive wins the M3 took (mid or late '80's?). Surely this web-site has some experts on this stuff... Regardless Bruce - The M3 WAS built to race. I know it was.
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12-20-2006, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by C5150
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"Ah, no they did not."
Originally Posted by Brucelee
Ah, yes they did. I believe that the M3 was designed to get into German Touring car racing - and had to be of a production line - with stock engine, etc..
And I know I watched a show on BMW racing, where the racing team spokesman specifically spoke to it being mostly stock - and how successfull this made sales due to the impressive wins the M3 took (mid or late '80's?). Surely this web-site has some experts on this stuff... Regardless Bruce - The M3 WAS built to race. I know it was.
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The GT3 was built to do nothing but race. The M car CAN be raced and is. It is a vastly different car. Go buy a GT3 and use it everday to commute to work.
Good luck with that!
And then there is that price difference!
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12-20-2006, 12:05 PM
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"Go buy a GT3 and use it everday to commute to work.
Good luck with that!"
Originally Posted by Brucelee
Whoa....
Listen - I mean to have no beef here, ok? You mentioned that it would be silly to compare the M3 to a GT3. I didn't - just took a different approach to the comparison I guess.
You are right - huge price difference, and the daily driver aspect would be interesting. The GT3 could be a daily driver though. She's street legal - so someone feels it's not just for racing. Don't think they need sat/nav on the race track either....
All I am saying, is that the M3 was built for racing originally. And thus - I still see them in the same class. Opposite sides of the spectrum - sure. Better cars to compare the M3 with - sure. But none-the-less, both are production cars built with racing performance in mind.
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