Please Help!!!!

[quikslver22]

My name is Matt Robbins and i have read a ton of engine failures on boxsters no matter what the year. I have a 2000 boxster 2.7 and the engine was replaced at 43k miles. Now im at the second 45k miles (almost at 90k miles total) and i now have an oil leak in the intermediate shaft seal. Not only that but the engine sounds like metal blocks banging around. It is at my local dealership becuase it needs a new alternator but right before it died the rough idles already started. I told them about this but they said the alternator needed replacing before they could look at anything else. Which is b.s. cause they can use a jump box to keep the battery charging if they need to run it, but whatever thats not why im here. I am assuming hte obvious and worst and the engine is more than likely needing a SECOND replacement. As i have read Porsche of America is not doing a damn thing to fix this. So i need your help.

I am asking for anyone who has ever the engine replaced, warranty or not, to please send me an email explaining about your engine replacement The cause, whether or not you paid for it, how many times, etc. I am going to make a case of this and try to force this problem as a recall. They obviously need to redesign their engine and get away from this FLAT engine design. I personally do not think the vehicle should continue to be in production if we are going to have to dish out half the price of the vehicle to have the engine repalced everytime. Porsche of America needs to cover at least 75% of this or all of it. It was built to fall apart and seems to be more of a scam! So if you could please help me out, i am going to create a list (sort of a petition) gather more information and take this to them and get the ball rolling. Might take a while to get this done but i think its time Porsche get their ass chewed by EVERYONE at the same time and not just one person. Numbers are key to winning a battle! So please help if you dont mind.

[blue2000s]

I like your idea and wish you luck on this. But understand that it's not the fact that the engine is horizontally opposed that causes these problems.

I'd encourage you to make your claims to Porsche as generic as possible, not highlighting your perceived reasons for the failures, leave that up to Porsche to decide, just highlight that the failures are excessive in general.

[quikslver22]

yeah i wasnt planning on proposing that to them, its just my opinion. Cause if you think about it, if its sucha reliable and good engine design as they say, why is a flat engine not used in the carrera gt? I know its a 10-cyc, but if they can make a flat-8 im sure a flat-10 wouldnt be much more difficult to make than a v16 back in 1930!

but i am just focusing more on the rms and intermediate shafts that are causing engine failures. I think it should be a recall ... no matter whether it is under a warranty or not.

[denverpete]

First, I understand you are upset - but really that's not going to help your situation with Porsche. Take a calm and reasonable approach and see how that goes first.

Second, you really don't know at this point whether or not you need a new engine. Until then, this is all just speculation.

Third, if you do need yet another engine, I'd think that you are exactly the type of person Porsche wants to help.

Finally, POA does in fact often help with the replacement costs of a new or used engine. This is entirely at their discretion (see my first point). Often they will pay for the engine but you are responsible for installation - or they might offer 50-75%. While this probably doesn't seem like a fair trade, keep in mind that they really have no obligation to help and you would be getting a new Porsche engine for around $3000.

Let us know how all this turns out.

[Brucelee]

I encourage you to go about this logically and have very low expectations.

As for it being the Boxer engine design, you can forget that. These guys have been pumping out flat engines since the 50s. They are not going to suddenly give you a new engine based on that score.

PS-Subaru uses the same design and their engines do not implode.

Best of luck!!!

[quikslver22]

like i said its just my opinion ... and check these out:

http://www.demeis.com/motorsport/tech/ej20rebuild.html
http://www.carsurvey.org/viewcomments_review_69979.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1005112900061

Just some things on i found on the subaru engines failing. They just as much as the Porsche design. Most v or inline designed engines have yet to have such a disaster that ive seen. It is usually cause by the owner of the car and not the engine.


My engine does need replacing and they want 9.5 hours of labor and $7k for engine parts ... got the phone call this morning around 10am eastern. I am gong to fight with them, from what i have read people without a warranty are sol and POA is NOT helping them. We will see what happens, i will keep you guys posted!

And i dont mind paying $2-$3k out of my pocket, but i hardly see how i should pay anything at all. My proposal to them is, since they arent having this problem in the later models as much as the earlier models and the numbers have gone down drastically, then give me the newer model engine and ill pay the difference. Thats where im going with them, but you cant get anywhere with out facts. So far i have found about 100 engine replacements in the last year. Some waranty and some not. And to set the record straight im not raging with anger about it. Im pretty calm adn collected. Just going to speak strongly and let the records speak for themselves.