03 Boxster S vs S2000

[John V]

That published curb weight may be correct if the car has no fluids on board, but it's not correct otherwise. Numerous examples of 3.2L cars have been on the scales at SCCA autocrosses in stock trim and the lightest I've ever seen is just under 2900lbs - that's with no exhaust, 18lb wheels, light tires, and next to no gas.

At highway speeds weight matters, but a whole lot less than from a stop. Which is what I said.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by John V

That published curb weight may be correct if the car has no fluids on board, but it's not correct otherwise. Numerous examples of 3.2L cars have been on the scales at SCCA autocrosses in stock trim and the lightest I've ever seen is just under 2900lbs - that's with no exhaust, 18lb wheels, light tires, and next to no gas.

At highway speeds weight matters, but a whole lot less than from a stop. Which is what I said.

And what does the S2000 weigh wet?

Mass effects acceleration at any starting speed. The forces of drag are more of a percentage of the total force on the car, maybe that's what you mean?

[chgolatin2]

Hmmmmm, German car and a Jap car... I will take the German car any day versus a Jap, thats a no brainer. The German's invented Performance the Japs just started...

[Sammy]

Originally Posted by chgolatin2

Hmmmmm, German car and a Jap car... I will take the German car any day versus a Jap, thats a no brainer. The German's invented Performance the Japs just started...

But the Japanese invented quality and the Germans haven't started...

Performance vs. quality... hmmm... Yeah, I still have no desire to get rid of my Boxster.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sammy

But the Japanese invented quality and the Germans haven't started...

Performance vs. quality... hmmm... Yeah, I still have no desire to get rid of my Boxster.

Yeah, Mercedes, BMW, Audi and Porsche know nothing about quality

[Sammy]

Originally Posted by Adam

Yeah, Mercedes, BMW, Audi and Porsche know nothing about quality

I couldn't agree with you more! None of those brands are even close to the Japanese in terms of quality. Only BMW is even above the industry average but they still follow the likes of many Japanese and American nameplates. Out of the top 15 nameplates for best quality only 2 (BMW and Jaguar) aren't American or Japanese (that is if you call Jaguar non-American).

[Ghostrider 310]

I like the way the Porsche feels when pushed much better than the japanese cars I have driven. I have not had the pleasure to drive the S2000 or an Elise, I have read you really need to keep the revs high to get great speed with the 2000. The Elise is supposed to get a bigger motor soon, I'm sure it will be a rockin car, however, I don't care for it's Bug Face looking front structure at all.

[John V]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

And what does the S2000 weigh wet?

Mass effects acceleration at any starting speed. The forces of drag are more of a percentage of the total force on the car, maybe that's what you mean?

We are saying the same thing but wording it differently. Mass is a lower percent contributor to the total force holding the car back from accelerating when traveling at freeway speeds.

S2000s are in the low 2800lb range with all fluids. About 150-200lbs lighter than a Boxster S.

S2000s are very quick and capable cars, on par with a Boxster S. In terms of quality, it's a toss-up. They are very well constructed cars and the quality of materials is very very good. The Boxster has some advantages like a much nicer top (insulated and lined - makes a big difference) and a much more refined driving experience. It's quieter and more luxurious. The penalty is weight.