Who is using the 987 MAF Holder / Tube?
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I posted this question, but realized I sorta had it buried in a thread about engine fault codes. So I'm bringing it front-n-center. Among y'all who've gone to a larger TB and used the 987 airbox, are any of you using the 987 MAF Holder / Tube with success? I'm getting codes P1126 and P1133 which suggest lean condition on both banks. (IIUC) I know that many people are using the 986 MAF holder, but that didn't really make sense to me, to neck back down that way. It seemed to negate all the work to get the bigger diameter in there int he first place. y'know? Waddy'all know? |
I have the 987 MAF & airbox
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I run it with a softronic tune. Runs a touch rich, but no issues or codes.
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My memory is a little blurry, but I have a 3.4 with the 987 air box and maf holder. I think I had problems with the maf sensor and had to switch it. I can't remember what sensor I had but I do remember having to use a different one. Either I had a 987 sensor and switched to a 996 or vice versa.
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I am using the airbox, maf holder and maf . It does require a tune. I think that I discussed this in my YouTube series on 987 air intake mods.
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I guess it's obvious that the problem is that the ECU does calculate airflow based on the diameter/area of the 986-tube. So without a spec tune it will go lean. Anyone know what electric signal is coming from the MAF? Can it easily be modded, eg via an arduino or something simpler?
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Thanks to all of you who've responded. this is helpful.
I've tried, unsuccessfully, to find a dealer who would flash the anniversary edition tune to my car, knowing that this would accommodate the larger MAF holder. The tune that I got from Vivid (VRTuning) ignores the o2 sensors, so it doesn't work to get me past the IM station. I may determine that, as much as it's a PITA, it may be most simple to swap back in the 986 maf holder for IM testing, and then swap it back out. (spare me the "save-the-earth" lectures.... look up what "lean condition" means) :cheers: |
No just flash with the 996 ROW tune! Try an independent equiped with the PWIS (ooooh did I get the acronym wrong?). This tune will match the 987 MAF housing diameter. You will need the right iteration sensor. It will be the for the 987.1 IIRC. I am sure others here will follow up more details that I have omitted
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you can't increase the diameter of the maf housing without adjusting fueling tables. MAF calculates the volume of air ingested using the velocity of the air past the sensor, which of course is a function of the size of the tube it's flowing through. The codes you are getting are generated in regular driving where the O2 sensors read lean/rich. At wide open throttle where the ECU is running on set tables (and not off of O2 sensor feedback), you will be running lean (increased airflow not accounted for because of incorrect maf housing size). Lean is mean, until it's not. Without monitoring this with a wideband O2 and updating to a custom tune you are asking for trouble, especially on track. What is you crazy ;)
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Robert,
Perhaps slightly better performance and the proper match for the 987 MAF diameter; folks here are actively using it. Full disclosure: I have just changed from a third party tune to the stock 986S and planned to go to the 996 ROW. I am not sure about the anniversary tune and don't know anyone using it. I believe the anniversary is geared to the 68mm TB where as the 996 is geared to the 74mm. You will: be able to start the car without depressing the clutch, reducing engine wear; not have to worry about post cat o2 sensors/codes; loose the ability to monitor one cam shaft for deviation from ideal. |
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So, do YOU know anyone local who'd flash me to a 996 ROW? Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk |
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It's not somebody it's you! I seemed to be ok the last 13 years I have been on here! |
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