Swift Shift Kit - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

RandallNeighbour · 06-20-2006, 07:01 PM

Anyone had any personal experience with this new kit?

http://www.evoms.com/marketplace/ViewProduct.asp?Now=6%2F20%2F2006+7%3A50%3A42+PM&ProductID=%7B66A0842F%2D117B%2D4EA1%2DAEA7%2D9910D 0A2A6FB%7D&OrgID=%7BCA5E16BC%2DD877%2D4137%2D8237%2D7EB9084DD 3D8%7D&ParentID=%7B535171AA%2DBBE4%2D46B7%2D9C41%2D15FF38 60E27F%7D&Curr=%7B535171AA%2DBBE4%2D46B7%2D9C41%2D15FF3860E2 7F%7D

PorscheDoc · 06-21-2006, 04:51 AM

It is a good product for those that do not want to do the full blown short shift kit.

986Jim · 06-21-2006, 04:54 AM

Looks nice, 20% reduction is good. I dislike most B&M as they make the trans notchy and I prefer a smooth shift even if it's long. A notchy shift causes me to misshift more oftin while racing or driving hard, so I just got used to racing with stock shifters and have done quity well with them.

Something like this might be nice tho...

mach schnell · 06-21-2006, 07:31 AM

[QUOTE=RandallNeighbour]Anyone had any personal experience with this new kit?

Randall - have you considered the Schnell SS? It was so easy to install and was phenom! If they made it for it bmw...

Perfectlap · 06-21-2006, 12:15 PM

notchier than stock? I've been on the fence for the B&M forever.
I think its at the limit of notchiness as is. If it got even stickier
I would be muy unhappy.

long and sharp=fine
long and mushy=not fine

short and sharp=EXCELLENT
short and sticky=not fine

Sometimes I wish I would never have driven that S2000 gearbox.
I was perfectly happy with the status quo before that.

mach schnell · 06-21-2006, 04:12 PM

i'm telling you guys - schnell short shifter!!!!!

RandallNeighbour · 06-21-2006, 05:36 PM

Mach, I think if you had the chance to pull my car out of the garage and drive it first thing in the morning when it's nice and crisp outside, you'd tell me not to put any kind of shifter in the car except for maybe a tiptronic...

1st to 2nd and 2nd to 1st is so unbelievably stiff when the engine is cold that I dread taking the car out if it's not the heat of the summer.

It ain't nothin' like your 987 with six or seven years of improvements as well as a tranny with hardly any miles on it.

Adam · 06-24-2006, 06:05 PM

Like most things a shorter throw comes as a compromise. I bought the B&M ...hated it and went back to OEM. I'm with JIm, I missed more shifts with the B&M. I prefer long and smooth over short and notchy.

BuffaloBoxster · 06-26-2006, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap

Sometimes I wish I would never have driven that S2000 gearbox.
I was perfectly happy with the status quo before that.

I told you so

Honda = best manual gearboxes on earth.

eslai · 06-26-2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam

Like most things a shorter throw comes as a compromise. I bought the B&M ...hated it and went back to OEM. I'm with JIm, I missed more shifts with the B&M. I prefer long and smooth over short and notchy.

100% agreement with the both of you. I tried a B&M in my Eclipse back in the day and hated it.

But I hear good things about the stock short shifter for the 987. I think you get less variability in the responses from people since you just bolt the thing in place--there's no way you can screw up the cables, etc.

I'm thinking of getting one and putting it in myself...

blinkwatt · 06-26-2006, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

1st to 2nd and 2nd to 1st is so unbelievably stiff when the engine is cold that I dread taking the car out if it's not the heat of the summer.

Im with ya. It just gives the transmission character thats all.

MNBoxster · 06-26-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by eslai

100% agreement with the both of you. I tried a B&M in my Eclipse back in the day and hated it.

But I hear good things about the stock short shifter for the 987. I think you get less variability in the responses from people since you just bolt the thing in place--there's no way you can screw up the cables, etc.

I'm thinking of getting one and putting it in myself...

Hi,

You're aware that B&M is the OEM supplier of the Short Shift for Porsche..??

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

eslai · 06-26-2006, 12:12 PM

Hi,

You're aware that Porsche sells the short shifter all cradled-up and bolt-in ready right? That's all I'm saying--that you don't need to hack things apart to put it in. Less chance for the error prone to well, make errors. How many varying opinions have you heard on the B&M and Schnell short shifters, eh?

The part costs like $400 though... that is a bit of a downer.

mjw930 · 06-28-2006, 07:03 PM

I have the swift shift kit and love it.

I originally put in the Schnell kit and hated it. Took it out after 2 days. Poor imitation of the proper kit, too many compromises to get the cheap price IMHO. The needle bearing and heim joints used in the EVOM kit is first class.

My P-Car mechanic didn't know what I did but he commented that the shifter feels like a knife though butter.

See this link for past review of the product: Vertex / Schell short shifter review

ralegen · 06-28-2006, 10:32 PM

Question: Does the swift kit lower the height of the stick? I was almost mistaking the "20% throw reduction" with the height of stick.

Anyone?

Thanks

mjw930 · 06-29-2006, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ralegen

Question: Does the swift kit lower the height of the stick? I was almost mistaking the "20% throw reduction" with the height of stick.

Anyone?

Thanks

No, the height of the stick stays the same since the Swift Shift kit attaches to the bottom of the stock shifter. It get's it's mechanical advantage by lengthening the lower part of the shift arm below the fulcrum point. They use a heim joint and replace the stock nylon guides with needle bearings encased in an aluminum housing to provide a much more precise feel.

der Geist · 06-30-2006, 05:19 PM

[QUOTE=mach schnell]

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Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

Anyone had any personal experience with this new kit?

Randall - have you considered the Schnell SS? It was so easy to install and was phenom! If they made it for it bmw...

Gotta agree with Mach Schnell on this one. I got a Schnell short shift on eBay last week and installed it yesterday. It took about an hour to install and the directions were extremely clear and easy to follow. I had one minor glitch and called for tech support. The call was picked up on the 3rd ring and the guy who answered it was extremely helpful and solved my issue in 2 shakes. I gotta say the customer service there is great. I am very pleased with the shifter as well. I think a lot of it is personal preference-I really don't think that this shifter will improve my street driving any but I must say that I totally dig it! I feel much more in touch with the car and the road than with the stock shifter.

super66 · 07-07-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mach schnell

i'm telling you guys - schnell short shifter!!!!!

hey mach, which one did you get? I went to their site and they don't list for our 05's, did you just order the 986 or call in? was it the one advertised for $159???

mach schnell · 07-08-2006, 09:13 AM

hey super66 - yeah, i got mine from epiq - the box it came in actually said 986 (and most of the instructions showed 986 pix (which is why they say download the b&m instructions as well - they are really helpful for certain steps).

so, just call epiq or PM epiqtodd and tell him you want the schnell for an 05 and he'll hook you up.

i really wish they made the schnell for bmw!

super66 · 07-10-2006, 06:22 AM

cool, hey did it sit any different.....I read a review it sits higher than the sock shifter? anything ugly? also did you ever deamber? I see the kits on the epic site, just curious if the buld stays yellow too or if you swap out the bulbs for the turn signal?