Newbee IMS Question for 2001 S

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by SilverSSS

Yep. first thing i did was got out my rare earth magnet. to me, it seems normal, but i've never opened an oil filter before in my 30 years of working on cars.

If the bits are ferrous, you have a problem somewhere.

[SilverSSS]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

If the bits are ferrous, you have a problem somewhere.

IDK,, that filters there for a reason, i would imagine you'd find some in any filter after 5k miles. Nothing to compare it to, though. Have you ever cracked yours open?

[911monty]

Originally Posted by SilverSSS

IDK,, that filters there for a reason, i would imagine you'd find some in any filter after 5k miles. Nothing to compare it to, though. Have you ever cracked yours open?

I'd imagine JFPinPA has cut his share open. It is routine and not something new. For comparison this is the metal caught by a Filtermag on my engine at last oil change 4,100 mi, 93k on engine.

[SilverSSS]

911monty,, those tiny dots distributed randomly around the inside of the metal cylinder your holding right? That's about what I'm seeing> Thank You So much, i feel better, seemed normal to me. you have to put eyes on it, and that's not always possible, T/Y.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by SilverSSS

911monty,, those tiny dots distributed randomly around the inside of the metal cylinder your holding right? That's about what I'm seeing> Thank You So much, i feel better, seemed normal to me. you have to put eyes on it, and that's not always possible, T/Y.

What he is showing you is the ultra fine ferrous grit that normally passes right through your oil filter and continues to collect and circulate in your oil unless you:

• Add a "full flow" (read no bypass) spin on oil filter
• Use a FilterMag on the spin on housing to trap the ferrous grit and remove it with each filter change

[SilverSSS]

OK, well for many reasons, including your experienced advice, I've decided to go ahead with the IMS Bearing replacement. I'll update with what they find, heck, I'll have them give me the part. t/y.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by SilverSSS

OK, well for many reasons, including your experienced advice, I've decided to go ahead with the IMS Bearing replacement. I'll update with what they find, heck, I'll have them give me the part. t/y.

Very bad idea. Once ferrous metal shows up in the oil filter, the car is no longer a candidate for an IMS retrofit (you can read up on this on the LN website). With ferrous flakes in the filter, there is a better than even money chance the metal will simply kill the new bearing. Any reasonable shop that got the car for this would simply say no.

The source of the metal needs to be found and repaired first.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by SilverSSS

IDK,, that filters there for a reason, i would imagine you'd find some in any filter after 5k miles. Nothing to compare it to, though. Have you ever cracked yours open?

I open about 20-30 oil filters a week in the shop; we see some synthetic bits (sealant or chain wear pad materials), a bit of aluminum (not unusual for an all alloy engine), but rarely do we see ferrous bits (other than the very fine black material caught by the FilterMag shown above). When we do find ferrous material, we become concerned and start looking further; quite often, what we find is not good.......