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BoxsterSteve 10-15-2014 11:40 AM

Norm,
You would have to pull the DRL relay to keep the headlights from firing up

BIGJake111 10-15-2014 11:57 AM

So in the case you have litronics, is this still a possible problem? Currently my lights look good but I would hate for this to become a problem.

clickman 10-15-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxsterSteve (Post 421755)
Norm,
You would have to pull the DRL relay to keep the headlights from firing up

So by just pulling the DRL module the car becomes a US car (as far as headlights go)?

Which means the headlights would only come on when the switch is actuated.

Now I just need to know how to do the fog light DRL hack... The detail given earlier in this thread is the hack to turn on the headlights for DRL in US cars.

Nine8Six 10-15-2014 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by clickman (Post 421334)
I don't think option 4 is possible, as I believe Porsche only sells the headlight as a complete unit. And if you could, if you're going to the lengths of breaking apart the headlight to get at the burnt piece (been there, done that), it doesn't really make sense to put back in the poorly designed part.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1413046310.jpg

Norm, never told you but a few have been copying your painted reflector idea here. Two 996s in Shanghai and one 986 in Beijing. 3 cars so far. Same, very same lol

ps: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ;)

Nine8Six 10-15-2014 11:19 PM

OP, yes the design of the 9x6 headlight is flawed. They will yellow and eventually burn/crack.

You've already seen your options but if you just want to get rid of the burnt area, given they are not toasted, I bet you could simply sand them up with a 180 grit abrasive paper and polish them afterward. I've never done that, just an idea...

clickman 10-16-2014 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 421839)
if you just want to get rid of the burnt area, given they are not toasted, I bet you could simply sand them up with a 180 grit abrasive paper and polish them afterward. I've never done that, just an idea...

Mine were not only brown, they were cracked and bubbling as well. There's no saving this bad idea...

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1413470315.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1413470336.jpg

clickman 10-16-2014 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 421838)
Norm, never told you but a few have been copying your painted reflector idea here. Two 996s in Shanghai and one 986 in Beijing. 3 cars so far. Same, very same lol

ps: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ;)

Fred, as much as I like taking credit, the only difference between what I did and what Charles has been doing such a good job of is that I didn't paint the clear plastic piece in front of the reflector. Charles paints both, at least in the ones of his I've seen.

Nine8Six 10-16-2014 07:59 AM

Norm, impressive. I presume this is the result of running those Porsche headlamps "day & night" (CA's DRL)?

I've retrofitted little over 50 of those BOSCH headlamps, maybe more dunno, and I've never seen them that toasted lol Ouch! Here in most cases they are simply yellowed with, in most cases, a very small crack...

Regardless, I'll have to take my words back... once yellowed I don't think there is any coming back for those things.

(exterminate the halogens!)

particlewave 10-22-2014 01:15 PM

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...A29F413798.jpg

Dlirium 10-22-2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by clickman (Post 421332)
I have never used anything but stock output bulbs, and I still had the burning.

I installed Fred's projectors and killed three birds with one stone: got rid of cheap burned plastic, got the superior light output of the xenons, and hugely updated the look of the front end. In my case for under $400.

Wait, who is this Fred guy, and where do I send my money??

BFeller 10-22-2014 06:51 PM

Fred is Nine8siSix on this board. He has a website posted in one of the links, but a PM to him will get the link.

There is documentation on how to open the lights. I might have a good lense cap in a few weeks for anyone that may want to open a set to just replace the lense cover. I will know for sure once my projectors(that have shipped) arrive and are installed.

clickman 10-22-2014 09:26 PM

Here's Fred's website:

The ultimate bi-xenon headlight retrofit kit for Sport & Super cars

Here's the thread showing the evolution of his design and quite a few members' installations.

http://986forum.com/forums/diy-project-guides/48169-porsche-headlight-retrofit-%5B-cad-prototyping-finish.html

If you don't want to do it yourself (I found splitting the case to be a real challenge), PM member particlewave for an awesome installation.

If you're interested in doing it yourself, I have a fairly detailed procedure that's about 90% done (I ran out of energy). PM me.

clickman 10-23-2014 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 422585)

No way, Charles. You took the blowtorch to those, right?? :eek:

Dlirium 10-23-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by clickman (Post 422635)
Here's Fred's website:

The ultimate bi-xenon headlight retrofit kit for Sport & Super cars

Here's the thread showing the evolution of his design and quite a few members' installations.

http://986forum.com/forums/diy-project-guides/48169-porsche-headlight-retrofit-%5B-cad-prototyping-finish.html

If you don't want to do it yourself (I found splitting the case to be a real challenge), PM member particlewave for an awesome installation.

If you're interested in doing it yourself, I have a fairly detailed procedure that's about 90% done (I ran out of energy). PM me.

Thanks Norm, huge help!!

Chuck W. 10-23-2014 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 421691)
get some fuse taps rather than modifying the fuses. I found them at NAPA autoparts. I think it was like $5 for 4 or something like that. NAPA part #$ 784601

I did some searching and found the thread on converting your fog lights to DRL. Easy hack. Thanks Savinor!

http://986forum.com/forums/diy-project-guides/20838-drl-fog-light-hack.html

As far as the fog lights, the stock H7 light puts out a lot of heat and in time will yellow (read burn) the lens. I found the below HID light on eBay for $13 a pair to work great. I went through several LED lights until I found this one. Shipping time from China was eight days.

2 Pcs H7 SMD5050 12 LED Car Front Fog Light Bulb White CREE Q5 Lamp 12V 30V S0BZ | eBay

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTg1WDU4NQ...cTg~~60_12.JPG

JayG used these. They are a tad more money ($37) but the same design. IMHO, they look better than mine but once installed you don't really notice them.

2X White Bulbs H7 Car Genuine CREE XB D LED Fog Light Lamps Headlight | eBay

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTYwWDU2MA...Trqc~/$_12.JPG

particlewave 10-23-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by clickman (Post 422652)
No way, Charles. You took the blowtorch to those, right?? :eek:

Hey Norm. Thanks for the references ;)

The picture that I posted above is what happens when you use those stupid "HID White" blue bulbs. I've had a few sets that were this bad or even worse. One set was missing the entire middle portion of the lens...it was pooled up in the bottom of the reflector!
On top of that, the bulbs are usually blown up like a balloon because they got so hot that the glass melted! :eek:

I usually have some good inner lenses lying around. If I don't, I usually know who does ;)

Just put a spanking new set in these last night.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...3D0798ACA9.jpg

clickman 10-25-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by clickman (Post 422635)
If you're interested in doing it yourself, I have a fairly detailed procedure that's about 90% done (I ran out of energy). PM me.

Or this:

http://986forum.com/forums/diy-project-guides/53276-how-retrofit-headlights-hid-bi-xenon-projectors.html

and this:

http://986forum.com/forums/diy-project-guides/51565-how-open-sealed-headlight.html

Both by particlewave, natch

particlewave 10-27-2014 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 422585)

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 422669)
The picture that I posted above is what happens when you use those stupid "HID White" blue bulbs. I've had a few sets that were this bad or even worse. One set was missing the entire middle portion of the lens...it was pooled up in the bottom of the reflector!
On top of that, the bulbs are usually blown up like a balloon because they got so hot that the glass melted! :eek:

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...otos/012-3.jpg

Nine8Six 10-27-2014 09:47 PM

wow... when you thought you've seen it all ^ unbelievable!

The whole car could have been toasted if this glass would have failed and made contact with that cheap plastic reflector thingny lol

Exterminate the halogens

clickman 10-28-2014 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 422669)
Just put a spanking new set in these last night.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...3D0798ACA9.jpg

And those will be burned in a few years.

To quote Fred: Exterminate the halogens!


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