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Old 07-29-2014, 09:07 AM   #1
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3 square.....edjumakate me please

I thought I had a pretty good selection of sockets, Hex drivers, Torx you name it...last night I was reading about the water pump on a Boxster they mentioned a 3 Square socket ??

Is this a spline or what...just not sure...are there drivers and sockets (male and female) ??

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I tried several metric and standard sockets until I found one that fit...I think that's what I did at least.
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Old 07-29-2014, 09:13 AM   #3
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I think you are referring to triple square. It is a socket, kind of like a spline socket
Also known as E socket

Here are a few links

6 Piece 3/8 in. Drive E-Socket Set
17 Piece 1/4 in. & 3/8 in. Drive E-Socket and Star Bit Set
http://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-38-in-drive-external-impact-star-socket-set-7-pc-67898.html
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also referred to as xzn or 12-point. available at pelican, but buy from the audi page not the Porsche page - much cheaper.
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My Stepson

My Stepson laughs at me when it comes to tools. I Have mostly Kobalt and Craftsman . I have found Harbour Freight to be pretty dang good for something I may use 3 times in my life...he is a Master Mechanic for Toyota and has $200 grand in tools
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Old 07-29-2014, 09:26 AM   #6
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Kobalt XTREME ACCESS

Would these work ?

I like Kobalt and get these anytime I like...the Harbour freight store is an hour away
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Would these work ?

I like Kobalt and get these anytime I like...the Harbour freight store is an hour away
no link Dwight
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Kobalt XTREME ACCESS

Kobalt Xtreme Access Socket Sets Buying Guide | ToolGuyd
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looks like they would work
Sounds pretty cool

"Universal Spline?

This simply means that one socket fits most fastener shapes. Normally, 6pt (hex) sockets only fit one type of fasteners. These universal spline sockets fit hex, square, spline, and external-Torx fasteners.

If you donít know whether you need spline, E-Torx, or square-fastener compatibility, chances are that itís not something you will need anytime soon.

Inch + Metric?

As you may know, inch and metric sizes are usually pretty dimensionally close to each other. These sockets are designed such that one size can fit both inch and metric fasteners sizes. The trade-off is that they donít fit either fastener sizes perfectly. "
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About what I thought

Thanks, I iwll just pick up a set from Harbor Freight next time I am over there
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In would be concerned that the "universal" socket might not fit just right and round the corneers of the bolt.

Besides at HF, you get a free flashlight LOL
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I think you are referring to triple square. It is a socket, kind of like a spline socket
Also known as E socket
The E sockets are female 6 point TORX sockets, not female triple square sockets.

The triple square XZN bits are 12 point splines. Think taking a square spline and rotating it twice, hence "triple square". A good set for Boxsters is the Neiko Tools set, made in Taiwan (not China). It has a short M10 for the bellhousing bolt and a tamper-proof M16 for the 5 speed tranny drain plug.

IIUC Harbor Freight doesn't have any triple square bits at present.
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Here is a primer on the subject.It gets bewildering with all the alternate names for the same item:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
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I stand corrected, thanks
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Here is a primer on the subject.It gets bewildering with all the alternate names for the same item:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
Very informative

This page as well. I had no idea there were that many different screw heads

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spline_drive
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I bought them

Neiko 10 Piece XZN Triple Square Spline Bit Socket Set Quality S2 XZN Bits | eBay

Thanks for all the help

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Thanks for the link

It explained a lot. I am posting this image perhaps it will help some other folks;

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Old 07-29-2014, 02:12 PM   #18
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Strange timming

While taking my seats today I find they are bolted in with 12mm Star Drive Bolts....I did not have a single star drive socket. I did have a small strip of the Kobalt Xtreme sockets....5 in a strip. I chose one that fit well and pulled the ratchet handle........Pop..Pop...Pop. I pulled the socket off and promptly put it back in the strip with it's 4 brothers and threw them in the trash. It rounded the points a little so after purchasing a proper 12mm Star Socket I had to drive it on to get it to hold. Kobalt Xtreme are worthless.

PS who ever posted about covering the door sills and surrounding areas with thick towels ....Thanks You...great advise and the seats are heavy and cumbersome and it would be very easy to scratch the car.
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You just have all the luck

I used the E-sockets from HF to remove my seats
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I broke two 10 mm sockets trying to get mine off before I bought the right tool for the job.

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