01-27-2006, 09:27 PM
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Thanks for the detailed information, time consuming, we understand.
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01-28-2006, 05:49 AM
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It is my pleasure
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01-28-2006, 07:19 AM
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Thanks as always Doc.
We appreciate your input here.
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01-31-2006, 10:00 AM
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the gear box is the one thing I don't like on my 2000 S. I don't hate it but it feels kind of old school after having driven the S2000 a few times. My last car was a Miata and I really really really hated the notchy shifting and tried to mix all sorts of redline grades to get the notchiness to go away. At temperature it was great, better than the 6speed Boxster for sure, short throws and little resistance.
But on cold days that thing was like a rock in your shoe. Very distracting.
never having driven the B&M is it safe to say that you are shortening the throw by increasing the notchiness with the short shift kit?
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01-31-2006, 05:40 PM
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Our local group does not do it the exact same way. And we have never removed the front center console for a short shift install.
We just let Madam No Fear go to town. The star of our DVD.
Last edited by Tool Pants; 01-31-2006 at 05:45 PM.
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01-31-2006, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tool Pants
Our local group does not do it the exact same way. And we have never removed the front center console for a short shift install.
We just let Madam No Fear go to town. The star of our DVD.
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Like i said, you don't have to remove the front center console, but it makes it a little easier to put the center console back in if that piece is out. I have them down to 20 minutes in and out, even with pulling then front center console.
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01-31-2006, 06:18 PM
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Yes, I have gone back, looked at the pictures and see that. Porsche also says that you need to remove the passenger seat on the boxster, but not a 996. Never did that either.
Never asked Aileen how long it takes to pull the parts in and out. Or I would get a slap.
But I do know how to put in a short shifter. B&M, and the other flavors.
Thanks for your help.
What do you see in the second picture of this post?
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02-01-2006, 07:22 AM
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never having driven the B&M is it safe to say that you are shortening the throw by increasing the notchiness with the short shift kit?
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You could say that. I ditched the B&M and went back to oem, too notchy for my tastes.
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02-01-2006, 08:37 AM
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I know the TT996's do not have the plate either. I have done literally 25 of these between 996C2/4, TT's, and boxsters, and have never seen one. Very interesting. I don't know that i have done any 5 speed boxsters off the top of my head though.
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02-01-2006, 09:17 AM
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You could say that. I ditched the B&M and went back to oem, too notchy for my tastes.
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How much notchier did it feel going from 2nd to 3rd? or was it notchier all around?
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02-01-2006, 09:44 AM
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Here is a GT2 we worked on with the green plate.
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02-01-2006, 09:56 PM
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How much notchier did it feel going from 2nd to 3rd? or was it notchier all around?
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2nd to 3rd wasn't horrible with shift effort(but still way worse than OEM) but harder to to smoothly find the gear as the path wasn't as direct as OEM. The shift into 1st and into reverse took HEMAN strength to go into to. It was almost comical. I don't know why any thinks this is an "improvement" over OEM. Whatever blows your hair back I guess.
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02-18-2006, 03:59 PM
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Hey Doc, I have this pain in my wrist whenever I am in gear. Forget the pain, but I'm more concerned about the gear. LOL.
I was wondering if the B&M will fix my problem. You see, when I'm in Gear, for example 3rd, I can move my stick left and right about 1/2" ( It really feels like 1-2"). It's like it's loose as if it were in neutral. Very annoying.
Do you think the B&M will take care of my problem?
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02-21-2006, 04:30 PM
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That sounds like a cable is way out of adjustment. Both the stock shifter and the B&M should be tight side to side. If you want the cheap fix, i would pull apart your console and try adjusting the cables and test it out (you can make the adjustments with the shifter in place until if feels good, then put the console back together)
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02-21-2006, 04:44 PM
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I have the same problem! But in neutral its tight. It also slips into gear without any play. However once in gear there is a lot of side to side play. Can that be fixed?
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You see, when I'm in Gear, for example 3rd, I can move my stick left and right about 1/2" ( It really feels like 1-2"). It's like it's loose as if it were in neutral. Very annoying.
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02-22-2006, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ralegen
Hey Doc, I have this pain in my wrist whenever I am in gear. Forget the pain, but I'm more concerned about the gear. LOL.
I was wondering if the B&M will fix my problem. You see, when I'm in Gear, for example 3rd, I can move my stick left and right about 1/2" ( It really feels like 1-2"). It's like it's loose as if it were in neutral. Very annoying.
Do you think the B&M will take care of my problem?
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Ok, i checked both cars out today, and I would say that the B&M has just as much play side to side as the stock shifter does. On the next car that comes in for a short shifter, i will play around with the cables and see if I can't work that play out of it....
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