08-04-2013, 08:24 PM
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I think the compression ratio is way too high for forced induction.
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08-04-2013, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxonalden
I think the compression ratio is way too high for forced induction.
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Adds another challenge to forced induction. Most of the people that did any forced induction ran 4-6 psi.
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08-05-2013, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenny Boxster
Adds another challenge to forced induction. Most of the people that did any forced induction ran 4-6 psi.
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Why not change compression ratio? I am not looking at it due to possible heat and space issues in the Boxster.
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08-05-2013, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by reiver
Why not change compression ratio? I am not looking at it due to possible heat and space issues in the Boxster.
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The proper way to add forced induction is to 1STinstall cylinder sleeves & stronger pistons that also lower compression. This requires total engine disassembly, so basically you need to rebuild the engine, while you are "in there". This will cost $10,K+. Naturally you will want to start with a 3.2L+ engine for max power, so now you have 300+HP & 280+ ft/lbs torque with is plenty for any 3000lb street driven car.
Now if you want to add power,complexity,heat,cost & lower reliability to your car forced induction is the next step.
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08-05-2013, 09:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BYprodriver
The proper way to add forced induction is to 1STinstall cylinder sleeves & stronger pistons that also lower compression. This requires total engine disassembly, so basically you need to rebuild the engine, while you are "in there". This will cost $10,K+. Naturally you will want to start with a 3.2L+ engine for max power, so now you have 300+HP & 280+ ft/lbs torque with is plenty for any 3000lb street driven car.
Now if you want to add power,complexity,heat,cost & lower reliability to your car forced induction is the next step.
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Plus you are going to need cams ground to a lobe profile designed for forced induction, and a reprogrammed DME for the same reasons.
The OEM engines are not designed for the kind of cylinder pressures that either a blower or a turbo create, even at low boost levels.
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08-09-2013, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
The OEM engines are not designed for the kind of cylinder pressures that either a blower or a turbo create, even at low boost levels.
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Is this true of all m96/97 non-GT3 engines?
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08-09-2013, 08:08 AM
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Yes all M96 are at least 11:1 & a engine designed for forced induction like a 996tt has 9.6:1 or less.
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08-05-2013, 10:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BYprodriver
The proper way to add forced induction is to 1STinstall cylinder sleeves & stronger pistons that also lower compression. This requires total engine disassembly, so basically you need to rebuild the engine, while you are "in there". This will cost $10,K+. Naturally you will want to start with a 3.2L+ engine for max power, so now you have 300+HP & 280+ ft/lbs torque with is plenty for any 3000lb street driven car.
Now if you want to add power,complexity,heat,cost & lower reliability to your car forced induction is the next step.
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It's not this complicated in the 350Z (needs forged/built internals for 500+ WHP) or BMW (up to 350WHP on a 325Ci). Neither requires internal work until that point. I am not familiar with the boxster enough to attempt it and worry enough about IMS failure as it is without pushing my luck. The engines for the other 2 are probably a lot cheaper to replace without going to a junk yard/part out resource. If I was going for pure power, I would have bought something else. The Boxster has the fun factor and I'm ok with the lower amount of power until I get used to having the engine behind me. I've only owned mine for a month and have little experience with Porsche, but have worked with the 4 cyl flat engines out of the Subbies that have lower compression.
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