10-03-2005, 01:14 PM
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didntknowpeepswerebeinggradedonhowtheyspellorrunon sentences,ifyoucantunderstand,noneedtoreply.youobv iouslyunderstoodwhathemeant.ifindthatthisbruceleec haracteraddshistwocentstoeverypost,evenifhehasnoth ingtosay,whichisnormallythecase.......
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Originally Posted by xclusivecar
Relax
He's just trying to help the guy out and obviously didn't mean to be mean.
Brucelee does have a valid point...communicate effectively and you will receive unbelievable feedback! Luckily, I was able to wade through the run on sentences to understand what he meant! Again, not to be mean! 
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10-03-2005, 04:47 PM
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^ Your maturity level is overwhelming. Save that **************** for homeroom.
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10-03-2005, 08:24 PM
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I second that emotion Adam...
and never disrespect the name of Bruce Lee...even if it is only a screen name.
Now let's return to our previously scheduled programming...boxsters.
got in a fun little tangle with a lotus elise this morning on the way to work...twisty little highway onramp with three nice high speed corners...that little bugger was doin' alright...but when I hit third gear he faded fast. I love the look of them though...particularly in the rear-view mirror. ;-)
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10-03-2005, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FUHRIUS
...got in a fun little tangle with a lotus elise this morning on the way to work...twisty little highway onramp with three nice high speed corners...that little bugger was doin' alright...but when I hit third gear he faded fast. I love the look of them though...particularly in the rear-view mirror. ;-)
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Hi,
You must have had an inexperienced or unmotivated driver in that Elise. Otherwise, I don't buy it.
The Elise weighs 1,975lbs., the Boxster S - 3,118lbs. The Elise goes 0-60 in 4.9 sec., the Boxster S - 5.5 sec. The Elise must push 10.5lbs/HP, the Boxster S - 12.4lbs./HP.
It simply doesn't add up on paper...
Happy Motoring!...Jim'99
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10-04-2005, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,
You must have had an inexperienced or unmotivated driver in that Elise. Otherwise, I don't buy it.
The Elise weighs 1,975lbs., the Boxster S - 3,118lbs. The Elise goes 0-60 in 4.9 sec., the Boxster S - 5.5 sec. The Elise must push 10.5lbs/HP, the Boxster S - 12.4lbs./HP.
It simply doesn't add up on paper...
Happy Motoring!...Jim'99
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I had an Elise and traded it for a 2000 Boxster S. The ONLY way to get a 0-60 of 4.9 sec. would be to drop the clutch at around 8,000 RPM. There is NO power in this thing until you get over 6500 RPM. THEN...you must shift at the correct point to keep the car in the second sets of cams or your acceleration will suffer dramatically until you once again hit the second set of cams. Also I experienced tons of wheel hop while trying to accelerate from a stop quickly. The Boxster doesn't do this. Hell, for fun I raced my buddy in an auto '96 Vette and we stayed together for quite a bit before he finally pulled away at 80 or so.
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10-04-2005, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by xclusivecar
I had an Elise and traded it for a 2000 Boxster S. The ONLY way to get a 0-60 of 4.9 sec. would be to drop the clutch at around 8,000 RPM. There is NO power in this thing until you get over 6500 RPM. THEN...you must shift at the correct point to keep the car in the second sets of cams or your acceleration will suffer dramatically until you once again hit the second set of cams. Also I experienced tons of wheel hop while trying to accelerate from a stop quickly. The Boxster doesn't do this. Hell, for fun I raced my buddy in an auto '96 Vette and we stayed together for quite a bit before he finally pulled away at 80 or so. 
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Hi,
I have tons of Seat Time in the Elise, going back to 2000 including Track Time both here in the States and at the Test Track at Hethel. I have 4 friends who own them and another who has a Series 1 Sun Conversion with the Honda VTec (actually the best combination). I even demonstrated the Elise for Lotus at the 2002 Mpls. Auto Show and got 7 deposits for the Local Dealer.
This car was a straight ROW demonstrator with the Kent Engine, not nearly so powerful as the Yamaha-Based, Toyota US Variant.
I am certain that I could better any Boxster out there in an Elise, except in a straight line, and only then when approaching Red Line. This is why I say the Driver was either inexperienced or unmotivated in the situation described.
It doesn't surprise me that the Corvette could pull away at will. It's power-to-weight ratio is superior.
Now, the Elise is unlivable as anything more than a Fun or Track Car, but that's another issue.
Happy Motoring!...Jim'99
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10-04-2005, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,
I have tons of Seat Time in the Elise, going back to 2000 including Track Time both here in the States and at the Test Track at Hethel. I have 4 friends who own them and another who has a Series 1 Sun Conversion with the Honda VTec (actually the best combination). I even demonstrated the Elise for Lotus at the 2002 Mpls. Auto Show and got 7 deposits for the Local Dealer.
This car was a straight ROW demonstrator with the Kent Engine, not nearly so powerful as the Yamaha-Based, Toyota US Variant.
I am certain that I could better any Boxster out there in an Elise, except in a straight line, and only then when approaching Red Line. This is why I say the Driver was either inexperienced or unmotivated in the situation described.
It doesn't surprise me that the Corvette could pull away at will. It's power-to-weight ratio is superior.
Now, the Elise is unlivable as anything more than a Fun or Track Car, but that's another issue.
Happy Motoring!...Jim'99
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I agree that the Elise will outhandle a Boxster. I agree the Vette will pull away but I was thinking it would have happened quicker. My last reply was to you quoting 0-60 times and I know from experience that the Elise is NOT a 4.9 sec car (unless you absolutely fry the clutch trying)! Now...i'm not a track guy and most people who have the Elise will never see the track. Like me they bought the Elise sight unseen and thought it would have been a great car to cruise around town. But like most people who bought the first 2000 found out it becomes downright boring driving a pure track car on the streets. This then makes the Boxster so much nicer. An all around fun car!
I wish I had the luck to have been able to drive the Elise around the Hethel track. Hell, I wish I had the luck to drive any car around any twisties. Chicago is just too flat!
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10-04-2005, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by KronixSpeed
didntknowpeepswerebeinggradedonhowtheyspellorrunon sentences,ifyoucantunderstand,noneedtoreply.youobv iouslyunderstoodwhathemeant.ifindthatthisbruceleec haracteraddshistwocentstoeverypost,evenifhehasnoth ingtosay,whichisnormallythecase.......
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Calm down man. Your lucky Brucelee hasn't locked/deleted your thread. The board may not say it but Brucelee is an admin.
Last edited by tqtran; 10-04-2005 at 06:41 AM.
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10-04-2005, 11:02 AM
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who are you? if he's admin, he should respect that not everyone on here is a scholar. the dude made one or two mistakes in what he was trying to say, and he rips him, and your telling me what? read the first post, nothing wrong with what the guy was saying. relax like im swearing or telling someone off!!!ya hear. my point being that if you dont understand someone go on to the next discussion, did you read that, go on to the next discussion, no need to reply.......
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Originally Posted by tqtran
Calm down man. Your lucky Brucelee hasn't locked/deleted your thread. The board may not say it but Brucelee is an admin.
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10-04-2005, 11:09 AM
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spelling and grammer 101..sign me up
the funny part is that he makes two mistake's in his own reply. trying to punk someone on grammer and he makes two grammer mistakes himself. where is he, why hasnt he replied, he's 'admin', yet he cant spell..are you kidding me. i cant spell for ****************, my grammer is ****************ed, i type so fast, i make so many mistakes and i have this guy correcting my grammer..ya ah hi
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Originally Posted by KronixSpeed
who are you? if he's admin, he should respect that not everyone on here is a scholar. the dude made one or two mistakes in what he was trying to say, and he rips him, and your telling me what? read the first post, nothing wrong with what the guy was saying. relax like im swearing or telling someone off!!!ya hear. my point being that if you dont understand someone go on to the next discussion, did you read that, go on to the next discussion, no need to reply.......
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