IMS adventure

[BYprodriver]

Originally Posted by davedeck

And why is that? Nissan replaced the front tires on my 350Z because they set the alignment incorrectly at the factory. Why should Porsche get a bye for a very obvious design flaw that has spawned a whole cottage industry? Don't get me wrong, I love my car but I hate driving with the thought that my motor could go at anytime.

Honda did the same thing with the new NSX after having Yokohama redesign the tires.

Lexus on the other hand refuses to acknowledge the exact same issue with the 2006up IS. Factory alignment spec has too much front toe out. I had exposed steel belts on the inner edge & 6/32's across the rest of the tread. I have to have it aligned to my own specs.

[Ghostrider 310]

It's not just car companies fellas. I recall a time when some film was allowed to go to market with a known flaw that mimicked a medical problem of a serious nature. The company simply did not want to risk losing market share by pulling a ton of product they had no replacement for, so in essence they risked public heath to protect their profits.

[Eric G]

As Ghostrider so clearly points out, it is easy for companies to put peoples lives on the line for profit. The only time Porsche will stand up and actually deal with the IMS issue is if someone was killed due to the failure of the bearing. Given that that is a remote possibility it will remain one of those nagging issues that comes with the territory of owning one of these cars.

I would fathom a guess that there are those in Porsche that now wish they had dealt with this issues and corrected it long ago...but its like telling a lie...once it gains hold and becomes mainstay there is no turning back.

[l3m]

Delete post.

[jdiba]

[QUOTE=Eric G;308446. The only time Porsche will stand up and actually deal with the IMS issue is if someone was killed due to the failure of the bearing. Given that that is a remote possibility it will remain one of those nagging issues that comes with the territory of owning one of these cars.[/QUOTE]

An absolutely HORRIBLE thought here, but what if lightning DID strike at some
point and someone WAS unfortunate enough to be killed or seriously injured as
a result of this flaw....what a can of worms THAT would open up for Porsche.

[Frank A]

The saga continues, remainder of fod not removed by POS mechanic killed the motor. Somehow ball bearings made there way into the drivers side valve trane and dealt the final blow. I'm going to pull that boat anchor durring spring break and doccument damage. I am especialy looking forward to inspecting the IMS bearing installed by said POS mechanic. If it is not an LN product my buddy is going to lawyer up and crush the balls of this establishment. I would have done this long ago, I was present when the service manager explained the work that they needed to do and so far they are full of guano.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by Frank A

The saga continues, remainder of fod not removed by POS mechanic killed the motor. Somehow ball bearings made there way into the drivers side valve trane and dealt the final blow. I'm going to pull that boat anchor durring spring break and doccument damage. I am especialy looking forward to inspecting the IMS bearing installed by said POS mechanic. If it is not an LN product my buddy is going to lawyer up and crush the balls of this establishment. I would have done this long ago, I was present when the service manager explained the work that they needed to do and so far they are full of guano.

Classic. One of the things that I preach so hard in my classes is FOD after bearing failure and how it destroys the chances of resurrection after a bearing failure occurs.

The LN bearings have zero tolerance for foreign object debris remaining in the oil after a bearing failure. They will fail in very, very short order just like any bearing subjected to chunks of debris in the oil.

Now that the bearing retrofits are so wide spread we are starting to see improperly installed bearings have issues. Here is a photo album and description of how we checked behind another shop's work to find that the center stud had been over torqued and then how we proceeded to extract the retrofit bearing to find that the preload increase had accelerated wear.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.589408611086938.146669.184464434914693&type=1

This one only had 3500 miles on it and was installed by a former poster here on these forums who was an "instant expert" after his first retrofit. After seeing this I now assume that EVERY retrofit he carried out was incorrect.

Here is a sample... Had we "assumed" that the bearing had been retrofitted correctly this bearing would have failed and the bearing would have gotten the finger pointed at it. I videoed the break away torque process to quantify that the torque was too great.

[chrisg]

Jake, I'm not sure if this has been addressed before, but the introduction of "The Guardian" has had me wondering what is done after the point of detection. Isn't there too much particulate through the motor already to just do a flush somehow and retrofit?