03-21-2012, 11:46 AM
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Help fabricating cam lock tool
I may have to reseal the cam covers soon and I want to fabricate the cam lock tool. Could someone who has a 5 chain tool do me a favor and photocopy the tool (just lay it on the glass of the copier and copy away) and then e-mail me the copy?
Thanks a lot, just send me a PM if you can do this.
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03-21-2012, 05:14 PM
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Have you seen this guys site.
986fix.com - photos
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03-21-2012, 06:16 PM
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Thanks, but what I'm looking for is the flat bar LN tool.
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1973 Opel Manta
1969(?) Fiat 850 Convertible
1979 Lancia Beta Coupe
1981 Alfa Romeo GTV 6
1985 Alfa Romeo Graduate
1985 Porsche 944
1989 Porsche 944
1981 Triumph TR7
1989 (?) Alfa Romeo Milano
1993 Saab 9000
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03-21-2012, 08:10 PM
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I have the complete LN IMS removal/install kit. I can photocopy the tool like you want but it won't be until Sunday/Monday because I'm on vacation 1200 miles from my shop. I'll check in periodically to see if someone has already sent you the specs.
Good luck.
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03-22-2012, 01:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxonalden
I have the complete LN IMS removal/install kit. I can photocopy the tool like you want but it won't be until Sunday/Monday because I'm on vacation 1200 miles from my shop. I'll check in periodically to see if someone has already sent you the specs.
Good luck.
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Thanks so much. I'm not in a hurry.
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Current car
2000 Boxster 2.7l red/black
Previous cars
1973 Opel Manta
1969(?) Fiat 850 Convertible
1979 Lancia Beta Coupe
1981 Alfa Romeo GTV 6
1985 Alfa Romeo Graduate
1985 Porsche 944
1989 Porsche 944
1981 Triumph TR7
1989 (?) Alfa Romeo Milano
1993 Saab 9000
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03-22-2012, 06:42 PM
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still plays with cars...
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I'd be very grateful if a copy could be passed this way too...
Many thanks!
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03-25-2012, 07:53 PM
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Boxster Steve and San Rensho,
I'm back, have taken pics and scanned the cam lock tools (I think that's them). I can e-mail you (need you addresses, IM me) the low resolution pics and scan. If you want the high res (2.5 meg pic and 22 meg scan) let me know and I'll do it.
Attached are the two tools.
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Last edited by Jaxonalden; 03-25-2012 at 08:06 PM.
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03-26-2012, 07:30 PM
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Thanks! After looking at your pictures, I think I may not have the skills to fab one.
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Current car
2000 Boxster 2.7l red/black
Previous cars
1973 Opel Manta
1969(?) Fiat 850 Convertible
1979 Lancia Beta Coupe
1981 Alfa Romeo GTV 6
1985 Alfa Romeo Graduate
1985 Porsche 944
1989 Porsche 944
1981 Triumph TR7
1989 (?) Alfa Romeo Milano
1993 Saab 9000
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03-27-2012, 03:59 AM
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Take the drawing to a fab shop with a plasma cutter, they can knock it out in a couple of min.......
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03-27-2012, 04:16 PM
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or.. buy them.. it won't be the last time you use them. I'm all for sharing info.. but publicly knocking off someones tools?? Really??
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03-27-2012, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Roberts
or.. buy them.. it won't be the last time you use them. I'm all for sharing info.. but publicly knocking off someones tools?? Really??
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US Patent 8,992,089 &
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Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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03-27-2012, 04:28 PM
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I have someone blowing up my phone trying to sell me "knockoff" LN engineering IMS bearings.. no thanks.. I didn't work to help him get his parts into SSF only to knock his stuff off and sell it behind his back
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03-27-2012, 04:37 PM
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Thats why I trust no one, no shop and no other company. The same goes for another product that we just started testing today, I have only told one person and sent that one person a single time stamped pic and video of the unit to "date" the technology. I did this only because I needed a "verifier" thats noteworthy in the industry to say "Yep I saw that in March of 2012" when we unveil it in 2014 with full world patent protection in place. It is the solution~
The stuff we are doing for the DFI cars is being handled MUCH differently. My 4.2 9A1 combo will be divulged to no one, the same with ALL the parts and ALL the tools.
This used to be a 3.4, now its a 4.2 and I'll die without telling anyone how we have done it. See this short video of a 2010 Cayman X recently born at Flat 6 Innovations and in testing now. Yes we are crazy, car still under warranty with 14K miles, we pulled it apart, bored and stroked it to the max and did it with no prior experience and zero assistance from the factory.
http://youtu.be/62i7wYcHAYg
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IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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03-27-2012, 05:04 PM
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NICE!!
Man.. the guy driving must be a *real* redneck with that "yeah"
For the larger bore/stroke, it RPM's very very quickly..
Charles car?
I'll never forget the first time I took apart one your T4's back in 02 or so. Had no idea it was one of yours until later on when you leaked out some engine build secrets and I figured out the previous owner was from Georgia.. put 2+2 together
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03-27-2012, 05:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Roberts
or.. buy them.. it won't be the last time you use them. I'm all for sharing info.. but publicly knocking off someones tools?? Really??
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Let me see, didn't all the aftermarket makers of porsche cam tools knock them off from an already existing Porsche tool?
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1973 Opel Manta
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1979 Lancia Beta Coupe
1981 Alfa Romeo GTV 6
1985 Alfa Romeo Graduate
1985 Porsche 944
1989 Porsche 944
1981 Triumph TR7
1989 (?) Alfa Romeo Milano
1993 Saab 9000
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03-27-2012, 05:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by san rensho
Let me see, didn't all the aftermarket makers of porsche cam tools knock them off from an already existing Porsche tool?
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Nope..Not all. Some people did, but one of the tools pictured there was never a Porsche tool.
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IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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03-27-2012, 06:37 PM
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Let me see, didn't all the aftermarket makers of porsche cam tools knock them off from an already existing Porsche tool?
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No.. I have 24/7 access to the Porsche tools, and we use a combination of LN tools and our own in house tools not based on anything from Porsche.
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03-27-2012, 08:22 PM
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With all due respect guys; I bought and paid for these tools, there’re mine. If I can help fellow 986forum members in any way, I will. Advice, parts, tools or whatever is needed…even a simple picture or two…God forbid!!
Putting a guilt trip on me or anyone else is uncalled for.
To anyone out there that needs help, just ask. That’s what this forum is all about. We’re here because we have a love of these cars and the brotherhood (or sisterhood) that loves brings. Don’t be intimidated.
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03-28-2012, 04:21 AM
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Funny. I bought this L&N kit, but it came with only one tool to lock each type if engine. My understanding is you should lock down both sides to eliminate the chance of grenading the engine after replacing the bearing. I was thinking of copying my tool so my kit is complete. I am not interested in making knockoffs. I just want a complete kit
John
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03-28-2012, 11:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxonalden
With all due respect guys; I bought and paid for these tools, there’re mine. If I can help fellow 986forum members in any way, I will. Advice, parts, tools or whatever is needed…even a simple picture or two…God forbid!!
Putting a guilt trip on me or anyone else is uncalled for.
To anyone out there that needs help, just ask. That’s what this forum is all about. We’re here because we have a love of these cars and the brotherhood (or sisterhood) that loves brings. Don’t be intimidated.
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Yes, and I understand that. Its our fault for not limiting the application of the tools and technology more and making it available to anyone and everyone.
Being constantly copied by competitors, moochers and looters is just part of the game when you are at the top. No matter how long I stay here, it never gets any easier to swallow or deal with.
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IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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