12-03-2010, 04:11 AM
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Engine Surgeon
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Inspect the old pump for missing impeller blade pieces.. If it has any you MUST flush the entire cooling system until they are found, else a cracked head is in your future.
The engine could have overheated, it had to be hot for steam to be emitted from the overflow..
The coolant temp sensor is located centrally on the engine, if the pump takes a crap and the coolant isn't being circulated due to that, the sensor will never sample the hot coolant. Meanwhile the coolant in the heads is boiling hot!
Just because the gauge didn't show you a temp elevation doesn't mean the temperatures in the heads and cylinder didn't elevate. I'd go ahead and do a leakdown and compression test to ensure the cylinders didn't lose their integrity, just to be safe.
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12-03-2010, 07:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake Raby
The coolant temp sensor is located centrally on the engine, if the pump takes a crap and the coolant isn't being circulated due to that, the sensor will never sample the hot coolant.
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Great.
So much for an important reason for the temperature gauge.
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12-03-2010, 09:07 AM
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Engine Surgeon
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There is no substitute for paying attention to the engine...
If the sender isn't getting hotter coolant moved across it, because the pump has completely failed, it can't take an accurate temp reading.
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IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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12-03-2010, 09:20 AM
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its the lack of coolant that causes cracks etc not the temp of the coolant. for better than 50 years most coolant sensors stop working when they dont have coolant around....they are after all coolant temp sensors not metal temp sensors,a coolant level sensor is a big leap foward
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12-03-2010, 01:33 PM
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Location: melbourne
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake Raby
Inspect the old pump for missing impeller blade pieces.. If it has any you MUST flush the entire cooling system until they are found, else a cracked head is in your future.
The engine could have overheated, it had to be hot for steam to be emitted from the overflow..
The coolant temp sensor is located centrally on the engine, if the pump takes a crap and the coolant isn't being circulated due to that, the sensor will never sample the hot coolant. Meanwhile the coolant in the heads is boiling hot!
Just because the gauge didn't show you a temp elevation doesn't mean the temperatures in the heads and cylinder didn't elevate. I'd go ahead and do a leakdown and compression test to ensure the cylinders didn't lose their integrity, just to be safe.
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thanks Jake i rate your input very highly,
once i remove everything i will take a look, was gonna fluch the whole coolant system anyway, as we have just got into summer here in australia,
i think i actually jinxed my self, i actually ordered waterpump kit with low temp thermo, 3 days before this happened,
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12-03-2010, 02:06 PM
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it has to be reverse flushed
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12-04-2010, 06:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by extanker
it has to be reverse flushed
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how do you reverse flush?
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12-05-2010, 05:57 AM
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what ever hose the waterpump uses for out put you want to run water [flush] inward. any blockage cant go foward so you reverse it
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12-05-2010, 03:10 PM
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And wouldn't you have to remove the thermostat from its housing to get flow - when I reversed flushed my MV Agusta cooling system I got no flow untill the 'stat was removed......
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12-05-2010, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Tinker
And wouldn't you have to remove the thermostat from its housing to get flow - when I reversed flushed my MV Agusta cooling system I got no flow untill the 'stat was removed......
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i dont know but you sound right.....mine is a new car and i aint keeping it long enuf for the pump to go bad
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