LN 3.2 to 3.6

[ltusler]

Gentlemen,

Please just do what Jake says and keep quiet. Send the car, pay the money, and be happy. You will not be dissapointed. I speak from experience. End of story.

I run a 1999 996 with a Flat 6 Innovations massaged 3.8 conversion. It will pass anything short of a cup car or tube frame 911 be it a 997S, 996, Boxter S, Cayman S, Cayman Turbo, 951, 930 been there done that at BIR on the main straight.

I'll be at Road America on the 11th and 12th, stop on by and check it out, car #996.

Lon

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by ltusler

Gentlemen,

Please just do what Jake says and keep quiet. Send the car, pay the money, and be happy. You will not be dissapointed. I speak from experience. End of story.

I run a 1999 996 with a Flat 6 Innovations massaged 3.8 conversion. It will pass anything short of a cup car or tube frame 911 be it a 997S, 996, Boxter S, Cayman S, Cayman Turbo, 951, 930 been there done that at BIR on the main straight.

I'll be at Road America on the 11th and 12th, stop on by and check it out, car #996.

Lon

Damn, thanks Lon..
And it comes from a man that wrote the check for one :-)

[70Sixter]

I've posted this before, BUT...

Jake's rep goes back forever in the Type IV VW/914 world. Before the M96 appeared Jake was making VeeDubs run like lions.

Trust him. First guy to say M96 could be rebuilt when Porsche would not.

'Nuf sed.

[ekam]

I don't discredit him. It's just that there are not that many people can afford to sink that kind of money into their car.

Seems like when people get hit with IMS, they either find a used engine or sell the car for scrap instead of sending it to Jake.

[Jake Raby]

I don't discredit him.

I didn't think that he did. I am a bit accustomed to doubt so it doesn't bother me.. When your primary focus is developing an engine platform with so many inherent issues doubt is just part of the the execution of my day..

It's just that there are not that many people can afford to sink that kind of money into their car.

Not true. Those who appreciate what a Porsche is and those who have extensive Porsche backgrounds understand what we have created and see the value that it offers. If the kind of following didn't exist for what we create, my business would have sank instead of growing during this economic downturn.

Seems like when people get hit with IMS, they either find a used engine or sell the car for scrap instead of sending it to Jake.

Thats not who knocks on our door. The wiser of the group applies the IMSR and avoids the entire experience related to that failure. People have 4 choices when they have an engine failure of any mode:

1- Buy a used engine
2- Buy a new crate engine from Porsche
3-Buy a re-man engine from a producer of high volumes, mostly comprised of used parts with no upgrades
4- Buy my FSI upgraded engine.

Of those mine is the only one with all the updates applied in STANDARD form and is the only of those that can be created for an application specific arrangement. The mildest engine that I produce makes 30HP more than it's OE counterpart in stock, non upgraded form. Pay for 30 real HP and see what that costs, pay for 35-50 more lb/ft of torque and see how much your wallets lightens... The byproduct of added efficiency and better parts has become performance, we make more power even if we aren't trying to!

If 1/2 of 1% of all Boxster Owners in this country buys an engine from me, thats still more volume than we'd ever be able to meet.. Our goal isn't volume, its development and creating resource materials and classroom experiences to help the DIY and INDY shop efforts worldwide. My business is a development company that just happens to also produce low volumes of high quality engines while supporting others in their quest of "understanding the M96 engine" (which just happens to be the title of my book thats being written as we speak)

And remember, a whole lot of our purchasers are waiting in the wings to buy their dream Porsche with a scattered engine dirt cheap on ebay and etc.. These people buy the car and spend DOUBLE to TRIPLE what they pay for it on my engine and some upgrades to create a really sweet and fast DE or street car. To these people your loss is their gain and you can bet they'll have more fun with your car, than you ever did.. I have had cars shipped to me for engines that the purchaser never even saw until our work was done and delivered to their doorstep...

In the old days the vast majority of those who could afford to buy a Porsche could also afford to maintain and repair it.. Today thats not the case in all too many instances.
"Porsche" and "Expense" both have 7 letters and share more in common than just that....

[The Radium King]

sorry for any perceived accusations, efforts to discredit, questions of trust or whatnot in my initial post. that was not my intent. my intent was to confirm what changes are neccessary to accompany a bore increase. the LN site says nothing else is required, but also partners with Raby who makes additional modifications. while i acknowleged the value of these additional modifications, i was trying to differentiate nice vs neccessary. i can afford neccessary, i can't afford nice. besides, this is a 986 BOXSTER board for cars that sell for $10k; i don't need definitions of 'expense' or free advice to just put up $20k and shut up; if money is truly of no object to some of the posters here then i suggest they start walking the walk, drive something made after 2004 and take the attitude to a 9x7 board.

[Jake Raby]

I was merely stating that cost comes with the territory.

I don't think that your perception of whats stated on the LN site regarding their 3.6 upgrade was correct when it said nothing else was required.. Thats because what IS required is complete and total engine disassembly and reassembly. They were basically stating that crazy mods like huge heads, wild cams, ECU flashes and 5K exhausts are not mandatory.

Yet again, you compared one process to a complete engine assembly cost wise, which is like comparing your Porsche to a Suzuki Samurai..

Nothing wrong with that, you didn't know..
Just don't assume that the approach I have created isn't viable or being carried out or that what I stated was snooty. The fact is a lot of guys that have GT3s and other Porsches are making Boxsters into track cars because they simply don't care if they run the car off the track and smash it, they can buy another tub for 3K, swap my engine into it and go. They can't do that with their GT3 or Turbo.

In many ways the Boxster platform offers something that only the Cayman can come close to comparing to, give the car the right power and in the right hands the car can't be touched. Thats worth it to enough people.