03-31-2010, 06:54 AM
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Thank you Sir
What did that run you?
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03-31-2010, 07:04 AM
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keep in mind that even if there is no gain in getting an aftermarket system you can also lose massive amounts of weight. and mixing the exhaust with a spare tire delete and you have lost yourself around 50 lbs in one fell swoop.
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03-31-2010, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobo1186
keep in mind that even if there is no gain in getting an aftermarket system you can also lose massive amounts of weight. and mixing the exhaust with a spare tire delete and you have lost yourself around 50 lbs in one fell swoop. 
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Bear in mind that most aftermarket exhausts underperform the stock setup, despite their claims. And it is a rare exception which equals or betters the stock exhaust.
Switch to aftermarket and odds are that weight will not be the only thing you're losing.
Aftermarket exhausts in general are just not worth the hassle and expense on these cars. If you like to tinker, or are only after 'better' sound, that's a different story.
If you can't stand that hole burning in your pocket, suggest you throw the cash at something else rather than an exhaust.
'Course then, you can't brag that you have the 'Stainless Steel 'X'-Fab Triple-Speed Go-Fast part'... even if it isn't.
Cheers!
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03-31-2010, 09:12 AM
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That's helpful, thanks.
Doc
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03-31-2010, 12:05 PM
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There is another consideration.
When I tossed all my stock hardware and went with headers, cat bypass, tuned exhaust etc., the interior temperature of the 'trunk' storage compartment went down noticeably. Can be a big deal when bringing a frozen pizza home! Seriously it did remove a lot of hardware that was up close and personal with the underside of that compartment, and reduced the heat.
Having said that - I'm going back to almost stock because the noise is just too much - can't even talk to a passenger.
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03-31-2010, 12:59 PM
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The upside would be transporting a hot pizza from the local italian joint. It would be like a mobile hotplate.
I'm beginning to think that stock exhaust is the way to go.
I not interested in the exhaust being so loud that it is overwhelming. I was just looking for that throaty sound and loud ONLY when you get on it. I was also looking to increase horsepower without compromising the core performance................. I've now heard Fabspeed-Maxflow and Borla if any at all.
Is that reasonable or a waste of time?
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03-31-2010, 03:58 PM
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How about a custom 9FF cat back exhaust, along with a set of custom M&M headers and HJS high flow cats. The total cost would be around 60K. Nigh on to 10K for the exhaust system, and the remaining 50K toward retaining a good divorce lawyer.
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03-31-2010, 06:12 PM
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Stock S-Muffler, headers, cat delete................
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04-01-2010, 07:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by docmorin
I not interested in the exhaust being so loud that it is overwhelming. I was just looking for that throaty sound and loud ONLY when you get on it.
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The mod to increase the sound of the OEM muffler is the 'Crios mod', and you will find it with a search. I did it a year ago and was happy with the difference, which I think was more at idle than higher RPM (maybe because the de-snorkled intake sound was louder than the exhaust at high RPM).
I still wanted a little more sound with no drone, and I prefer the twin tailpipe look vs. the OEM muffler on my 2002 2.7, so this spring I changed the OEM muffler for a FVD/Brombacher 'Sound version' muffler. It has a little more rumble than the Crios mod at idle, and more sound as the RPM increases, especially over 4kRPM. It is not much louder than OEM when cruising on the highway. Like the Dansk unit, it has the stamped look of the OEM muffler, which supposedly helps with drone. They claim a hp increase, but that is not why I bought it. I certainly did not detect any reduction in power, there is no drone, and it sounds and looks great.
I have been following this forum for a couple of years now, and it seems that opinions on mufflers/exhaust systems vary quite a bit.
Check out all the options, and good luck!
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05-14-2010, 06:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lobo1186
keep in mind that even if there is no gain in getting an aftermarket system you can also lose massive amounts of weight. and mixing the exhaust with a spare tire delete and you have lost yourself around 50 lbs in one fell swoop. 
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I like where your head is at, Lobo. It's not that we're removing something from the car; Rather, we're adding lightness. That helps not only with acceleration, but also ride, braking and handling.
I think sometimes people are so concerned about peak power and torque numbers they frequently forget the end goal: better overall performance.
I seek performance through wisdom.
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