04-13-2010, 03:36 PM
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No I live down here in L.A.
I went to another radiator shop and they said they couldnt test it because you need "special plugs" for the bottom. The prior radiator shop that did a test on this oil cooler did not do it under alot of pressure. Isnt this thing working at least 60lbs because of the oil pressure?
They showed me what test they did and it was just the covering holes with thumbs and blowing air through the top then submerging it under a tank. Is this right?
I went to a machine shop and they said they can test it under about 80 lbs but it's 45 bucks and they can tell me a for sure if it's leaking or not.
It's just that alot is riding on this thing being good or bad so I want to be 100% sure.
can someone please let me know if it's supposed to be tested under high pressure? thanks!
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04-13-2010, 04:07 PM
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but that machine shop is charging me 45 dollars I think they are only trying to get money out of me, what do you guys think?
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04-13-2010, 04:26 PM
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dti,
You don't have much history of the car (Why did your Aunt take it off the road? Was it broken? Just lack of use? Did the inter-mix of fluids happen over the years of sitting). As you said, your plugs look good, so maybe the engine is just suffering from the standing idle and 120,000 miles on the clock.
If your serious about getting the engine up and running relatively cheaply (ie, not removing the engine and heads), have you considered spending a few hundred dollars on a new cooler, replace the oil and filter and flush out the cooling system? Sunset or Pelican Parts will sell you a cooler for a couple of hundred $$ and the oil / filter / distilled water another $100 or so.
Then run the car gently for a few miles and see if there is any inter-mixing of fluids - if there is, then you know where you stand, with a big decision as to buy another engine or rebuild what you have got. If no inter-mixing, thats a big win and you can reassess what you want to do to get the car up to scratch.
After all, unlike most of us here, you havn't invested thousands of $$$ in the car so what have you got to lose??....
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Last edited by Steve Tinker; 04-13-2010 at 04:35 PM.
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04-13-2010, 10:28 PM
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Haha you got a really good point. I guess I will try it, saw a type S cooler on ebay for not that much. I guess it doesnt hurt to try, that's what the machine shop guys told me. Thanks for the advice. And you are definitely right I don't have anything to loose if this engine goes in the crap hole. Only thing I can do is get a new one
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04-13-2010, 11:17 PM
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Sorry, but I think you're on a long painful nickel/dime road to discover the obvious.
It's not the heat exchanger - it's top end related - cracked head, D-chunk or gasket.
Forget the 3.2 swap. You need the DME, Wiring Harness, Accelerator assembly, fuel system (tank, return lines, etc.). These bits will total more than the car is worth.
Essentially what you have is a non-ticking timebomb with a chocolate milkshake in the sump.
You have a relatively high mileage 2.5 car which has, or is soon to have, issues with the top (rear window, motor cables, etc.), motor mounts, CV boots, not to mention interior, electrical, or bodywork issues.
Assuming you do sort it out, at the end, you're gonna pour more into it than it's worth and still end up with a car no one will want.
Sell it now to a prospective spec racer for whatever you can get and apply that to a car better sorted.
I don't want to be Mr. Negative...I'd like to paint a rosier picture, but based on your reports, I just can't.
Cheers!
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04-14-2010, 07:43 AM
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is the engine the same from a 2005 Porsche Boxster? I found a great priced engine with 30,000 miles but off a 2005
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04-14-2010, 03:09 PM
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Not even close, would need about the same list as a 3.anything.
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04-14-2010, 03:11 PM
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Could you post several pictures of the car?
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1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974. Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
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04-14-2010, 04:06 PM
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You should listen to Lil B - he's giving you some very good advice.
Mark
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04-15-2010, 07:24 AM
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I understand, and I greatly appreciate all the help you guys have given me. But I will be sticking to the project. I am in no rush to get this thing going. If it takes time and money I am fixing this thing regardless. And Paul ill post some picks of the car, so you guys can see what Im dealing with.
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04-15-2010, 11:08 PM
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qustion about swap
Is it better to try and find a 2.7 liter engine while I'm at it and is it a hard swap?
or is it a minor mods swap?
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04-17-2010, 09:56 AM
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1998 Boxster with 7.8 DME, 2005 3.6 liter/325 hp, Variocam Plus, 996 Instrument panel
2001 Boxster original owner. I installed used motor at 89k.
1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974. Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
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04-17-2010, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dti
Is it better to try and find a 2.7 liter engine while I'm at it and is it a hard swap?
or is it a minor mods swap?
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Any engine 2000 or later motor is an egas motor. It uses a different DME, different Motronic software version, different wiring harness, different accelerator assembly and different fuel tank, lines and vapor recovery system.
This is not a minor job. It is expensive, complicated and time consuming to convert a non-egas car to an egas engine.
Consider that Boxsters of your model year have been changing hands for as low as $5000, and it really makes no sense at all to do such a swap.
Cheers!
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04-17-2010, 04:06 PM
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I guess 2.5 it is. I bought this one for 2000.00 from my aunt pics coming today.
I just got the Bentley Manual in the mail today. It's a really good book!
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04-17-2010, 04:14 PM
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Did you see the 2.5 motor for sale in my link above?
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1998 Boxster with 7.8 DME, 2005 3.6 liter/325 hp, Variocam Plus, 996 Instrument panel
2001 Boxster original owner. I installed used motor at 89k.
1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974. Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
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04-18-2010, 09:19 AM
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No Paul, send me the link so I can check it out.
I forgot to mention took the coolant out and out came nothing but oil. OIL! but wheres the coolant? Maybe my aunts mechanic worked on it and thought it was oil cooled and put oil in there?, It's very weird. I have like 9 quarts of oil in 1 bucket looks like with a little bit of antifreeze. Very weird. Im posting picks today just that it was to dark yesterday.
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04-18-2010, 10:22 AM
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No affiliation:
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1998 Boxster with 7.8 DME, 2005 3.6 liter/325 hp, Variocam Plus, 996 Instrument panel
2001 Boxster original owner. I installed used motor at 89k.
1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974. Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
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04-18-2010, 11:30 PM
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Porsche pics
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04-18-2010, 11:33 PM
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so...
As you can see in my pics I took out the hoses and out comes nasty mix of oil and coolant. As I was taking it out a little water came out. So heres a question pretty sure there's still more oil in the pipes. How do I flush it out of there + the radiators? can I stick a hose somewhere and "let it rip"? Because I am going to have to take all this junk out of the piping and radiators right? thanks!
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04-19-2010, 08:06 PM
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got the bentley manual today! its a really good manual
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