ECU Tuning Opportunity

[blinkwatt]

I doubt that the extra 10hp= -.2 off your 0-60.........

[Bob O]

Blink... you don't think the 10 hp would translate to .2 off 0-60 time? What increases do you think you could expect... if any? 10 hp is about a 4.5% increase in my 217 base hp. (Their web site claims 15 hp increase, and an almost 8% increase in torque....from 220 to 235 hp and 192 to 207 torque. This specifically for the 2.7 01 base. 15 hp is almost a 7% increase over the 217) Either way, I would think (with absolutely NO basis for the conclusion) that a .2 increase would be achievable. But I could be all wet too. Enlighten me please. If there's no discernable expected increase in performance then I think I'd be wasting my money?

Bob

[lbrown2009]

anyone purchase this yet for the boxster 2.7 non-s? I think I am pulling the trigger first thing tuesday unless I hear something extremely negative.

Lance

Originally Posted by Bob O

Blink... you don't think the 10 hp would translate to .2 off 0-60 time? What increases do you think you could expect... if any? 10 hp is about a 4.5% increase in my 217 base hp. (Their web site claims 15 hp increase, and an almost 8% increase in torque....from 220 to 235 hp and 192 to 207 torque. This specifically for the 2.7 01 base. 15 hp is almost a 7% increase over the 217) Either way, I would think (with absolutely NO basis for the conclusion) that a .2 increase would be achievable. But I could be all wet too. Enlighten me please. If there's no discernable expected increase in performance then I think I'd be wasting my money?

Bob

[edevlin]

Sounds like a good deal to me. Remember that a good ECU tune is more than just peak HP and torque. They can also give you a flatter torque curve and remap the throttle response, which can make the car more fun to drive.

Ed

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by lbrown2009

anyone purchase this yet for the boxster 2.7 non-s? I think I am pulling the trigger first thing tuesday unless I hear something extremely negative.

Lance

I am "pulling the trigger" today. The folks at FVD are some of the most knowledgeable and professional folks that I have encountered. Indeed, in the vast world of so called "tuners", FVD is the real deal. Their ECU programs aren't just some "boiler plate" files simply designed to blanket the model range. Rather each client receives a custom program that is designed specifically for their vehicle, taking into account performance upgrades ect... No worries Lance. There is only an upside to this application.

[Cartel]

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger

I am "pulling the trigger" today. The folks at FVD are some of the most knowledgeable and professional folks that I have encountered. Indeed, in the vast world of so called "tuners", FVD is the real deal. Their ECU programs aren't just some "boiler plate" files simply designed to blanket the model range. Rather each client receives a custom program that is designed specifically for their vehicle, taking into account performance upgrades ect... No worries Lance. There is only an upside to this application.

I am a testament to the above comments. The folks at FVD are top notch and nothing less of that. For the most part I have dealt with both Mark and Rhonda and they have been nothing short of great in accomodating my needs. In regards to the programming I dealt with none other than Florian. We read out my car together for my file to be sent to Germany in order to construe a flash file and the following evening (10 p.m.) we were on the phone again to flash my car. For most people once they leave their work it stays their but this is not the case at FVD. For them to go out of their way on their personal time speaks volumes of great character and service with me and for that I am grateful. Yoy will not regret any of it. Rest assured.

[blinkwatt]

Hmmm.....if someone can provide a 3rd party dyno I'd drop the bling bling if the car really gains what they show from their dyno charts.

[edevlin]

"Hmmm.....if someone can provide a 3rd party dyno I'd drop the bling bling if the car really gains what they show from their dyno charts."

I am not familar with their tune software, but I would be suprised if you did not pick up 10+ hp, some torque, and a more responsive throttle mapping. Thats about what I got on the dyno after "chipping" my 2000 2.7L several years ago.

Ed

[Kirk]

Generally you're looking at what, $995 for a GIAC or similar ECU tune, right? Softronic is a bit cheaper at $895:

http://www.softronic.us/index.php


Then there's also Upsolute, which I can't find an exact price on, but I think it's the cheapest at $700:

http://www.upsolute.com/


Now FVD comes along with this offer at $500 (normally $995). That's a GREAT deal!!! Especially considering that FVD doesn't do anything half-assed. They're a top quality German tuner. Only problem is that you get "free" upgrades to the program, but only if you buy their stuff/parts and their parts are EXPENSIVE. Headers for my 986S go from about $1,500 for standard headers to $3,700 for headers with a cat. Still, if you just want the ECU upgrade this is a deal you can't beat!

Kirk

[Johnny Danger]

I received my new ECU file this morning from FVD. It will be a couple of days before I can actually upload it. I will post my results when I do.

[McLuvin]

And to add into the mix of great deals, Softronic is advertising that Planet-9 members get their software AND Durametric software for $716!

http://www.planet-9.com/news-items/37627-2009-softronic-winter-special.html

That's really a better deal than FVD since the Durametric software is around $350 by itself.

Now I am scratching my head on which one will give me better tuning results! Decisions decisions...

Can anybody give pros and cons between the two?

I will probably go with the Softronic deal as I need the Durametric software to see what's up with my recent CEL.

[JAAY]

HA!! They wouldnt even answer my questions about the softronic in my car. They just said it was more indepth. I dont get it. I just have a 996 motor in my car with a stock porsche reflash. Its not like I put a v8 in the car or something.

√: thanks
< - Porsche Specialist>: I don't have a user account to see the price. and I have worked out that custom tunes are not part of the special however
< - Porsche Specialist>: so the flash is much different and for that car does require you to mail in your ECU
: 716 on a 3.4 996
< - Porsche Specialist>: yeah it is different price
: why is the tune different is my question?
< - Porsche Specialist>: its not a simple obdii flash
< - Porsche Specialist>: difference paremeters etc
: if it is the same dme and the same motor what are the variables?
< - Porsche Specialist>: Jay, I am not able to answer the indepth tuning functions, I can tell you that the conversion or custom files are not on special

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by JAAY

HA!! They wouldnt even answer my questions about the softronic in my car. They just said it was more indepth. I dont get it. I just have a 996 motor in my car with a stock porsche reflash. Its not like I put a v8 in the car or something.

√: thanks
< - Porsche Specialist>: I don't have a user account to see the price. Scott and I have worked out that custom tunes are not part of the special however
< - Porsche Specialist>: so the flash is much different and for that car does require you to mail in your ECU
: 716 on a 3.4 996
< - Porsche Specialist>: yeah it is different price
: why is the tune different is my question?
< - Porsche Specialist>: its not a simple obdii flash
< - Porsche Specialist>: difference paremeters etc
: if it is the same dme and the same motor what are the variables?
< - Porsche Specialist>: Jay, I am not able to answer the indepth tuning functions, I can tell you that the conversion or custom files are not on special

Which DME do you have?

[2K3_Boxster_S]

Originally Posted by JAAY

< - Porsche Specialist>: so the flash is much different and for that car does require you to mail in your ECU
<

I would have a problem with that. You should have it tuned on a dyno IMO. I'm looking at EVOMsit. I don't have it yet. See what you think. should be a dyno there for your car plus Vids.

http://www.evomsit.com/Porsche_MAIN.htm

[2K3_Boxster_S]

Originally Posted by McLuvin

And to add into the mix of great deals, Softronic is advertising that Planet-9 members get their software AND Durametric software for $716!

http://www.planet-9.com/news-items/37627-2009-softronic-winter-special.html

That's really a better deal than FVD since the Durametric software is around $350 by itself.

Now I am scratching my head on which one will give me better tuning results! Decisions decisions...

Can anybody give pros and cons between the two?

I will probably go with the Softronic deal as I need the Durametric software to see what's up with my recent CEL.

Same problem. I'm trying to decide. Is the Durametric software really that usefull? you can erase a CEL, but in most cases it will just return. and I can already do that with a $20 scanner from Autozone. You can view all kinds of values, over revs etc.. but you can't modify them.

Also, how are there ECU flashes in comparison to FVD? I have intake, headers, Full exhaust and am looking for maximum benefit from these mods. how is Softronics reputation compared to FVD? wouldn't mind the extra software but FVD's price is in enticing. Help

[manolo]

I havent used the Durametric syuff but I think it allows you to clear more codes than a basic scanner. Like airbag/immobilizer codes and others maybe.

But what do I know, I only have 20 posts... wait, now I'm at 21!!!!

On my way to being an expert!!!

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by 2K3_Boxster_S

Same problem. I'm trying to decide. Is the Durametric software really that usefull? you can erase a CEL, but in most cases it will just return. and I can already do that with a $20 scanner from Autozone. You can view all kinds of values, over revs etc.. but you can't modify them.

Also, how are there ECU flashes in comparison to FVD? I have intake, headers, Full exhaust and am looking for maximum benefit from these mods. how is Softronics reputation compared to FVD? wouldn't mind the extra software but FVD's price is in enticing. Help

2K3 Boxster,

Read the reviews on 6Speed and Planet 9 regarding all of the positive experiences members have had with FVD and their products. Their commitment to customer service is unsurpassed, and their products all perform in an exemplary manner. Also, in all due respect, I suspect the reason why you keep getting CEL's is because of the NHP exhaust components on your vehicle. I know several others who are experiencing the same as a result of that brand.

[lbrown2009]

Worked with Rhonda and Flo and FVD, A+ experience... car was tuned within 24hrs of sending my file to their server, can't wait to add some upgrades and retune for a little more juice . I have not dyno'd the car and didn't drive it/own it for more than two weeks before I tuned it so I can't say where I am seeing gains but I will tell you 110mph in 4th gear feels sweet at 5400 rpm Thanks FVD!

[clickman]

This all sounds great, but I always wonder if there's a down side. As a newbie to this concept, are there any negatives to this, other than the price?

[Cartel]

Originally Posted by clickman

This all sounds great, but I always wonder if there's a down side. As a newbie to this concept, are there any negatives to this, other than the price?

The heightened risk of speeding tickets.