Jake Raby exhaust evaluation

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by blackbox

since I am the person that started this thread about exhaust systems, I find it funny that other members (jake excluded...haha) are more interested in discussing other forums. I think we are getting a little off subject.

Thanks for the quick response Jake. I only asked about testing because I wanted to modify my stock exhaust for sound without loosing any hp or torque. I am currently running a stock 3.2. I look forward to any more test data you can offer.

Sorry to have taken your thread off onto a wild tangent...

None of my developments have been made for sound and they never will be... I only concern myself with gains in torque, HP, Efficiency and RPM range... I always want a car to be faster than it sounds :-)

Sound can be an additional byproduct of other performance attributes, but its not something I shoot for as a particular goal... Otherwise I'd be just as guilty as all the guys building "fart cans" with no development behind them at all...

[Jake Raby]

Jake, as I told Charles, remember the old line about "leading a horse to water"......... Both you and Charles need to keep the faith and keep up your great efforts, for as you have seen, "they know not what they do........" We can only hope that they eventually wake up and see the light………..

Charles and I are both very driven... We have worked together as collaborative partners for many years and have solved dozens of issues with a multitude of engine platforms.. On top of that, I am a Marine and I do not retreat, only fall back and regroup.

I wonder if any of those challengers on PPBB have ever assembled an M96 engine?? If they have ever seen one out of the car, or whith it's ancillaries removed??

Oh well, I was kicked off that forum for attempting to be an asset to the community and because I would not play the political games... Helping people really is difficult and expensive.

[JFP in PA]

Until recently, I was not aware that PPBB has given you the boot; which is a true shame. PPBB has always been vastly more about "who is saying it" rather than "what is being said"; you might be surprised to see the number of private email exchanges that have taken place over the years on that exact topic........

But, alas, I am afraid you are correct; for the most part about all most of the posters there have assembled is in the bar for drinks at happy hour......

[eightsandaces]

Jake,

Thanks for the wellspring of information you have provided, I kept the Excellence issue with your quotes in it as a study guide and bible of the 2.5 engine. Don't let some "pussy hurt" emails take you off your game, you're a mechanic, you're going to hear all sorts of nonsense from a myriad of sources. Perhaps PPBB is worried about the loss of sales.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

Until recently, I was not aware that PPBB has given you the boot; which is a true shame. PPBB has always been vastly more about "who is saying it" rather than "what is being said"; you might be surprised to see the number of private email exchanges that have taken place over the years on that exact topic........

But, alas, I am afraid you are correct; for the most part about all most of the posters there have assembled is in the bar for drinks at happy hour......

One of my Clients made a visit to the facility here... Shortly after that he posted positive comments here on 986 forum as well as PPBB, infact it was the same post on both boards.

The "High Sheriff" over on PPBB had his post deleted almost immediately, when he asked why there was no explanation.. Here on this forum a few days later someone aslked where the post had gone, so I made a fairly firm post about it and how unfair it was since the poster was not anything more than a purchaser with an opinion after seeing what we were doing first hand. I continued to post on PPBB..

Then, after THREE MONTHS the head honcho from PPBB gets on a power trip after he finally sees my comment here and sends me an email "asking" me not to post there again.. I sent a reply of apology and tried to make everything right, he never replied...

Thats OK.. I have a plan. (Marines always do)

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

One of my Clients made a visit to the facility here... Shortly after that he posted positive comments here on 986 forum as well as PPBB, infact it was the same post on both boards.

The "High Sheriff" over on PPBB had his post deleted almost immediately, when he asked why there was no explanation.. Here on this forum a few days later someone aslked where the post had gone, so I made a fairly firm post about it and how unfair it was since the poster was not anything more than a purchaser with an opinion after seeing what we were doing first hand. I continued to post on PPBB..

Then, after THREE MONTHS the head honcho from PPBB gets on a power trip after he finally sees my comment here and sends me an email "asking" me not to post there again.. I sent a reply of apology and tried to make everything right, he never replied...

Thats OK.. I have a plan. (Marines always do)

Jake, I've always looked at having my posts deleted as a badge of honor.......... By-the-by, did you catch the "longest tread in history" on PPBB about how to use a crows foot extension on a torque wrench? It literally went on for days..................

I had the pleasure of visiting Jake's shop recently (thanks for taking that huge boat anchor engine off my hands, Jake ). Not so much a shop, but rather a lab. Thanks for all your help, Jake, and please don't let the actions and comments of a few bad apples prevent you from helping the members of this board.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

One of my Clients made a visit to the facility here... Shortly after that he posted positive comments here on 986 forum as well as PPBB, infact it was the same post on both boards.

The "High Sheriff" over on PPBB had his post deleted almost immediately, when he asked why there was no explanation.. Here on this forum a few days later someone aslked where the post had gone, so I made a fairly firm post about it and how unfair it was since the poster was not anything more than a purchaser with an opinion after seeing what we were doing first hand. I continued to post on PPBB..

Then, after THREE MONTHS the head honcho from PPBB gets on a power trip after he finally sees my comment here and sends me an email "asking" me not to post there again.. I sent a reply of apology and tried to make everything right, he never replied...

Thats OK.. I have a plan. (Marines always do)

PBBB is pretty much a social club as mentioned below. They tend to kick off or run off anyone with knowledge or expertise. Just ask Tool Pants...they booted him off too. People who are serious about wrenching on their Boxster know that is not a good resource for info. That site tends to attract Boxster owners who want to talk about the weather or their 401K plan or how they got a rez at some trendy restaurant. True enthusiasts that actually wrench on their cars and drive them visit sites like this one. Keep on doing what you do Jake and don't worry about the naysayers, we need more people out there like you.

[Jake Raby]

Yeah I saw that thread... Having used crows feet to torque flight controls in aircraft, it really confused me that none of the experts knew the formul for calculating torque angle....

Between them they have probably built an accumulative 5 engines....

[Jaxonalden]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Yeah I saw that thread... Having used crows feet to torque flight controls in aircraft, it really confused me that none of the experts knew the formul for calculating torque angle....

Between them they have probably built an accumulative 5 engines....

Jake,

I'm a former USAF aircraft mechanic and it's is hard to believe that people “in the profession” don’t know the tools of their trade or how to do simple calculations. Makes one wonder about the quality of the product they produce.

Keep up the great work. I’d love to swap my 3.2 for one of your Stage II 3.6’s. With a torque curve (or lack thereof) that flat it must be a ball to drive.

[Jake Raby]

Thanks guys... I think the key is in sharing through books and other reference materials.. We have data that no one else does and we deserved to be compensated for gathering it...

Over on PPBB I keep seeing people referring to "experts" that don't share our views, but for some of reason none of these people are ever named.. I'd be wiling to bet they haven't even built a single M96 engine...

I have never fancied "experts" and I have been refusing that title for the better part of 15 years... Its pure BS.