04-16-2007, 02:19 AM
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Only 20K for a sleeper?? Do it, it is the time to awake the sleeper!
I would say skip the wheels, but take everything else.
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Originally Posted by c4skiller
Ok Guys, love the site. First time post, long time guest.
I value your opinions (well most of you..j/k)
so let me know what you think..
Here is the scenario..I have a stock black on tan '97 boxster with 32k miles.(btw-i need new brake pads, constant obd2 mass flow 02 check engine constantly on, other small things wrong, maybe a new clutch)
amber everything, 2.5l motor...you get the picture. I truly do love the car, as it is perfect body, paint and interior, however I got smoked by a 350z the other day, so my buddy (a 996turbo owner) suggested i call a semi-local LA porsche customizer. I did and we made an appt. for this morning to install a reprogrammed ecu, dansk sport muffler and evo intake. would give me a lil more punch. Well, here is where it gets interesting..
As I arrived, a genuine RUF 3.6l boxster was getting dropped off a flatbead. it had been t-boned pretty bad. But i didnt think it was totaled, It was. i'llcut to it 20k gets me installed on my car the following:
996 3.6L (2200 miles)
6spd trans
ecu
limited slip differential
gt2 clutch
turbo short shifter
coil over springs w/ billet knuckles
twin turbo big red brake system (calipers, rotors,pads, sensors)
ruf exhaust system (muffler, header, etc)
2006 19" s wheels (3500 more for the ruf rims..ugh)
s tech cluster
new elec wiring
carbon diffuser
smoked front, side, third and rear lights
dyno tune
and a guarantee to produce 355 horse!
i want to make it a sleeper.
i have given him a deposit so that I could think about.
Be Nice..Be honest
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04-16-2007, 02:50 PM
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do you have more info on the brake system?
Sounds like a big investment but if you plan to keep the car for a long time I don't think you would have been able to do this any cheaper.
Have you actually called RUF (Texas) to run the project by them? THose guys like to talk shop so don't feel like you are imposing on them. I called to ask about harness belts and the guy talked my ear off. Sounds like you should talk to the guys doing the install take some notes and then call RUF and ask if you think you will need any parts or if they have some recent improvements/new info they can add in while everything is apart.
Sportec from Switzerland did a 3.8 conversion on a 987S in an issue of Excellence and the editors felt the car could have easily handled even more power.
They also did a really nice CaymanS conversion.
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04-16-2007, 03:29 PM
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I'm having trouble with the math but I think I am getting close...
You spent $12K for the 3.6 wreck and will pay another $12K for the shop to do the conversion.
Needless to say.. I say go for it, but don't be suprised if the "install estimate" changes before all is done. I also wonder what kind of wreck the car was in to ensure there wasn't damage to the engine/trans to begin with.
for '98's Porsche stiffened the front chassis to handle 18" wheels. 19" wheels weren't "ok'd" by Porsche till the 987 Boxster which again, was substantially revised.
BTW, what happens if another 350Z smokes you..
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04-16-2007, 04:02 PM
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BTW, what happens if another 350Z smokes you.. 
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which is bound to happen, given how cheap & easy it is to go FI in those cars
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04-16-2007, 08:46 PM
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I'm having trouble with the math but I think I am getting close...
You spent $12K for the 3.6 wreck and will pay another $12K for the shop to do the conversion.
Needless to say.. I say go for it, but don't be suprised if the "install estimate" changes before all is done. I also wonder what kind of wreck the car was in to ensure there wasn't damage to the engine/trans to begin with.
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very true, before any work is done I would draft up an agreement between you and the shop saying that they will cap all costs at $12K for all services related to this project. If additional parts are needed you will pay for those parts but not the service and you have the right to supply your own parts. They have some cheap lawyer in a box software available.
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04-16-2007, 11:15 PM
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talk about being at the right place at the right time! You should call RUF and see if they have some records regarding the modifications, dyno charts etc. That way you can get a better idea of what was in the donor car and what you can expect to roughly get. In regards to your question if you should do it I would say "HELL YES!" It sounds like financiallyit is not a burden for you, if you can afford it go for it! just keep it mind, cars are not an investment, the only R.O.I your gonna get is the smile on your face when you blow unsuspected motorist. In fact, I may have a great idea how you can recoupe some of the cost that you will incur with this mod. Call visa tell them you have a great comercial, $12,000 for 97 boxter+$20k RUF upgrade= smokin a $50,000 carrera= priceless!!! Just remember no matter what you do to you car, it will be eventually be a money pit, at least now you know you are getting the best stuff, so just get it over with! Do us a favor, post a picture and details of how the mod went, and again I must stress on posting a picture because I often go to socal and I dont wanna be a victim of your "sleeper RUF"
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04-18-2007, 09:05 PM
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for that money
For that kind of money, I would hope you get to KEEP the old motor!!!
There was a shop in atlanta that was doing the whole conversion just for $15000.
I believe it was Rooke motorsport..
For 24K, I would insist that I get the old motor so I could recoup some of my money.
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04-23-2007, 10:48 AM
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Updates...
Here is the official list of parts being transplanted:
- 03 996 3.4 LITER ENGINE WITH OIL BAFFLE UPDATE, NEW WATER PUMP AND FULL SERVICE - 340-355HP -
- 03 996 ELECTRONICS AND CLUSTER/BRAIN/HARNESS
- CUSTOM HEADERS
- CUSTOM 996 CAT CONVERTERS...SMOG LEGAL
- CUSTOM EXHAUST
- CUSTOM INTAKE
- 75MM PORTED THROTTLE BODY
- GIAC CUSTOM ECU TUNE
- 2003 BOXTER S TRANSMISSION
- LIGHTWEIGHT FLYWHEEL AND SPORT CLUTCH KIT
- QUAIFFE 80/20 DIFF UPGRADE
- CUSTOM MOTOR AND TRANS MOUNTS
- 996TT BRAKE UPGRADE WITH BHP PADS
- COILOVER SUSPENSION KIT
- SWAY BARS
- CUSTOM DROP LINKS
-CUSTOM FRONT AND REAR AXLES
- STEEL BRAIDED BRAKE LINES
UPDATES TO FOLLOW...
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