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		|  08-27-2018, 07:01 PM | #1 |  
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				Wanted: LA lawyer recommendation vs Porsche Dealership
			 
 
			Long story short 
I purchased a late model Porsche from an LA based Porsche dealer remotely in early July.
 
paid cash for car, had paperwork fed-exes to me to sign. 
Signed and sent back. Car was picked up via transport and delivered.
 
issue is that the purchase was in early July and I have yet to receive title or signed documents.
 
I have been contacting used car sales manager on a regular basis to little avail.
 
Only after leaving a message for the GM 
a week ago I was told by used car sales manager that the bank was slow delivering title, but they’d email copies of the docs and fedex everything when title arrives. No email was received.
 
calls/email/txt to anyone at dealership at this point are not being returned.
 
tired of having a beautiful paperweight sitting in my garage I can’t register.
 
Suspect some issue is going on with title, but can’t understand why they can’t deliver on the sales documents and make the reach to communicate and help resolve the issue without requiring threats and escalations.
 
looking for an LA based lawyer recommendation.
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		|  08-27-2018, 07:27 PM | #2 |  
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			Get on a plane
		 
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		|  08-28-2018, 07:36 AM | #3 |  
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			I feel for ya dude. California and DMV are two words to fear especially when put together. Could be shenanigans or not. My daughter and son in law are fighting with these morons over two cars that have been registered out of state for 2 years. All paperwork was/has been submitted but Cali DMV continues to send renewal notices and late charges. It's hard to release funds to another State. Gotta fund these sanctuary cities don'tcha know?. Anyway I suspect that unfortunately your issue is not with the dealer but with the STATE. Best Wishes.
		 
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		|  08-28-2018, 11:02 AM | #4 |  
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			I was in a similar situation with a CA Wheeler Dealer car I bought a few yrs ago from a small dealer.  I contacted the CA Attorney's General.  Wasn't long after I had my title.
 A dealer (esp a reputable Porsche dealer) is required to supply a title.
 
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		|  08-28-2018, 11:13 AM | #5 |  
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			PM me if you want some lawyer referrals.I am from LA and have a number of friends who are lawyers, guys that I have known since we were little kids.
 Let me know if I can help.
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		|  08-28-2018, 03:32 PM | #6 |  
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			I didn't complete the pursuit of a JD. Thus, I don't play by the same rules. 
I'm a professional writer, and my "consumer" letters have met with 100% success. For my clients.    
PM me, and we'll go from there. 
 
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		|  08-28-2018, 03:35 PM | #7 |  
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			I like Starter 986's attitude.He probably gets results....
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		|  08-28-2018, 07:55 PM | #8 |  
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			Let me know if there is anything I can do on this end. Would be happy to pay them a cordial visit in person for you.
		 
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		|  08-29-2018, 04:03 AM | #9 |  
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			I had a similar situation when I purchased an out of state car (from GA) a few years back.  The dealer is part of a large group in Atlanta, and I *thought* that getting the title mailed was only a formality.  30 days went by and nothing, so I started calling.  60 days, still nothing except more angy calls on my part, which kept being shuffled around to different individuals who *supposedly* were the sole individual responsible for titles.  The answer I kept getting was that "it's been submitted to the GA BMV, and as soon as they get it back to us, well let you know".  This just sounded fishy to me, so I started calling the GA motor vehicles department, only to find that they couldn't provide me with any information because I wasn't the dealer.  Finally, in a round about way, I got them to admit that they did indeed have the title and that it was being processed.  Eventually, I received the title, and much to my suprise, the accompanying paperwork showed that the dealer did submit the tile to the state (GA) in a timely matter, and that the dealer did send it to me within 3 days of getting it back from the state.  Additionally, there was nothing odd on the title, or any red flags that would show why the state kept the title for so long (or even why the state had it, but I guess that how it works in GA), also when I registered it where I live, there were no issues with the title.
 Bottom line, I was just about ready to get a lawyer involved or even fly back to Georgia just to yell in person; instead I was patient and everything worked out.  Who knows if a patient approach will work for you, but I would start with working your way up the food chain at the dealer (not that it did me any good) and try to determine where the title is actually at...maybe the state has it as well.
 
 In any event, I feel your pain.  Before you start throwing money at attorneys, try to determine if there is actually some legal hold-up...if not, it might be just a waste of money.
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		|  08-29-2018, 10:30 AM | #10 |  
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			As a former auto sales consultant, let me assure you that even when the dealer does everything by the book, the state can hold up things for years.
		 
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		|  08-29-2018, 07:35 PM | #11 |  
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			The ball is moving at least ...  I've at least got some action and a little bit of communication.
 Received 2 Fed-Exes today --
 
 Each had a copy of the same exact sales paperwork  -- still no title.
 
 Seems like multiple folks lit fires under the finance/docs department..
 
 I'm thinking this is more of a case of ineptitude, ball dropping, and the bank/California dmv being slow.
 
 
 Mike
 
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		|  08-29-2018, 08:24 PM | #12 |  
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	Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by seningen  I'm thinking this is more of a case of ineptitude, ball dropping, and the bank/California dmv being slow. |     
Napoleon is often credited with this quote but the actual author seems to be in dispute.
		 
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		|  08-30-2018, 03:53 AM | #13 |  
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			You can always go the bonded title route. Real easy here in Texas
		 
 
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