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[tonycarreon]

Originally Posted by Allen K. Littlefield

Also any dissenters are labeled "deniers" and dismissed out of hand thereby ending debate. This only happens when your argument is weak.

no. disagreement is the lifeblood of democracy. however when a group takes money from a company that benefits if global warming is "disproved" and hurt if stricter standards are enforced, disagreement is stifled.

show me a reputable scientist who does not take money from exxon and still disagrees with his peers and i will listen. but when you point to a scientist who takes money from the oil and gas industry and then puts out a study showing global warming is beneficial, you lose your argument.

i believe from your posts (and correct me if i am wrong) your stance is that global climate change is happening, but you are unconvinced as to the cause. you are not convinced it is happening because of man-made activities and may merely be a cyclical event. fair enough, i disagree.

but the HI (the "NASA data blows hole in climate change" people) goes a step further - they do not believe that global climate change is even happening, and they argue that if it does happen, it would be a good thing. to what end i can not determine - perhaps they feel it would help having our fish come out of the oceans pre-baked...

the HI is the same group who took money from philip morris tobacco and published a study which, they claim, shows second-hand smoke posed no health concerns.