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Originally Posted by Allen K. Littlefield
Also any dissenters are labeled "deniers" and dismissed out of hand thereby ending debate. This only happens when your argument is weak.
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no. disagreement is the lifeblood of democracy. however when a group takes money from a company that benefits if global warming is "disproved" and hurt if stricter standards are enforced, disagreement is stifled.
show me a reputable scientist who does not take money from exxon and still disagrees with his peers and i will listen. but when you point to a scientist who takes money from the oil and gas industry and then puts out a study showing global warming is beneficial, you lose your argument.
i believe from your posts (and correct me if i am wrong) your stance is that global climate change is happening, but you are unconvinced as to the cause. you are not convinced it is happening because of man-made activities and may merely be a cyclical event. fair enough, i disagree.
but the HI (the "NASA data blows hole in climate change" people) goes a step further - they do not believe that global climate change is even happening, and they argue that if it does happen, it would be a good thing. to what end i can not determine - perhaps they feel it would help having our fish come out of the oceans pre-baked...
the HI is the same group who took money from philip morris tobacco and published a study which, they claim, shows second-hand smoke posed no health concerns.