Infotainment System for Porsche Car [from CAD, prototyping to finish]

[algiorda]

I hope you don't leave out us MOST bus users. Have you thought about using a Tablet based solution? Don't know about size and form factor.

To be honest with you, I researched replacing my CR23 with a 2 din radio and didn't want to ruin the look of my Special Edition. So instead, I installed a Bluetooth adapter and use my large iPhone 7 Plus for XMRadio and Waze for Navigation. I also use it for Hands free calling and it works great. Perhaps we should design a holder / cradle that you can insert the Phone into right where the radio is to give the appearance the phone is the radio? I use one of those magnetic vent holders now and it's a PIA as it really doesn't hold the phone all that well.

What would really be nice is the look of the Continental 1 Din radio but with a slide out 7" screen!

[Traco]

Originally Posted by algiorda

I hope you don't leave out us MOST bus users.

I gave up researching changing the MOST system and bought a Bose Soundlink Mini II and holder for the iPhone.

Amazing sound, spotify etc etc. Speaker will sit in the storage cubby under the wind deflector or wedges nicely between the seats on the arm rest. Plus I can use it elsewhere. Sounds are usually only on when SWMBO is in the car so driving is dialed back. Otherwise its the flat six soundtrack at full volume.

[Nine8Six]

^ 177mm * 100mm * 45mm ~ w/ ultra light material selection (no steel)





Just a peak preview of what we are trying to accomplish here. Including some visuals of what appears to be the preliminary (and thermally yet unmanaged) design of the enclosure. Just a shell basically... for now all it does is helping me to visualize the surface area I have to work within - so to pack the punch!

No no big 2DIN boxes for me thank you very much.

The backend is driven by a Intel Quad Core Atom® x5-Z8350 processor with 2M Cache with an astonishing 1.92 GHz clock speed. Comes with 4gig ram and running Windows 10 as OS. Has all the necessary connectivity you'll ever need ~ 2.4ghz WIFI and Bucktooth.

That's right. A fully featured Car PC that you can customize just the way you want it. You can even install your Durametric software onto it?! Or if you don't have one, wait and see whats coming your way! If you ask me, there is no other thing other than my laptop that makes me feel "home" (I.T. wise). Certainly not the effect I was getting from the budget 2DIN units I've recently received and tested. So this "My Laptop My Home" feeling will soon be transferred inside my Porsche car!

Eventually we'll be playing with the Continental radio style e.g. Custom Face Bezels. There are so many options for us to play with here, obviously. Just for fun, and to better represent how easy this will get at that stage, here goes a bezel style I've designed a few weeks ago. That is as "amusing" as it will get but hopefully we'll find something a tad more conservative.

[Maxiimum]

Salut from Quebec Fred!

I don’t have a boxster but I have a 2002 911 and I am also interested in your infotainment system. Please count me in for the premium kit

I can see that you are using NX and the manufacturing addon. How did you connect the simulation to your CNC machine? I have Fusion360 and a CNC machine but I want to upgrade to NX in the future. What do you recommend me to do to get started?

Thanks for sharing everything you do. Amazing work!

Max

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by Maxiimum

What do you recommend me to do to get started?

So cool, old neighbor

NX loll Hmm sure… what’s wrong with F360?! Just joking man

No exp with f360 but how exactly are you going to transfer your cad data to NX? You’d be the first… to my knowledge anyway. What are you doing? sml eng firm, entrepreneur??

what is a 9-1-1? What does it look like?

[Maxiimum]

Hi Fred,

We want to move away from the F360 cloud and start over using a professional CAD system. I hope this make more sense now

We are a new engineering company with 2 staff and plan to expand to 6 in 2018. We already know we want NX but it is very difficult for us to find information on the manufacturing side because we don't have access. Especially NX CAM simulation and how it work. I just need to know where to begin with this. If you can share how you did it that would be very kind and helpful. Also how much is NX? hehe

Fred my porsche 911 is a 2002 C4 AWD in midnight blue. I'll post a picture soon. The first modification is the sound system for me

Max

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by Maxiimum

We want to move away from the F360 cloud and start over

Oops! another victim.... sorry to hear man :/

Have you tried the Siemens Manufacturing Forum? Used to be webkey membership only but I think you can join for free these days no? not 100% sure. For accurate info/price you need to find a local Siemens Partner (var). Without this guy you’ll be hitting closed doors in most cases bud. Siemens will provide direct support to e.g. Boeing, Porsche, Redbull F1 team, NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory… small companies like that, you see

In a nut shell…

Price: NX is cheap lollll Cost what your 911 used to worth at the dealer back in 2002 (‘brand-new’) :/ The way around that problem for a start-up is to get an industrial contract to pay for it upfront. You’ll want to ensure this contract is financially sufficient long term to cover your annual maintenance cost also (US$10k/year). Same advice I give everyone who wants to start-up at this CAD/CAM/CAE level. That is what we’ve done here and what many other sme like yours does too.

Manufacturing: is not an add-on btw, its built-in ootb. Adv ISV & Machine simulation is add-on tough – check with your VAR as prices varies a lot depending on what CAM pckg you’ll need. Careful however (what they don’t always tell you!): nothing is plug & play in NX manufacturing so make sure you have extensive knowledge and fluent in C and TCL programming language before launching/investing into this. If you don’t have the resources internally then simply forget about NX (Senior Software Engineer & Programmer level required).

Sim & validation works ootb from native NX but for industrial controllers only (SINUMERIKS, FANUC, HEID) however requires CSE drivers and those are specific to each controllers. You will need to write and modify your own Post Processors (in TCL) and tweak those CSE drivers for each and every machines based on your machine-tool builder’s specs. So… in a 3d space you tweak IJK vectors, euler angles, your channels, custom operations, UDE (User Defined Events) and so on. If you can’t write TCL then you need to outsource. A stable PP for NX will run you between $5,000~$15,000 ‘per machine’ depending on the complexity of the machine kinematics. All that to say… if you can’t hardcode those PP/CSE internally, then add the cost of another 911 car (used, 2002 model).

NX is not for girls man, and can be painfully complex. If you are serious or need official info, just PM me your company legal name/address/email and I’ll get you an temporary account set-up on GTAC under our number (webkey/pwd) so you can access the engineering KB from Siemens directly. It’s all going to make sense at that point for you.

Hope this helps bud, best I can do to help really. Best talking to your local var really