04-25-2017, 08:48 PM
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Custom User Title Here
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ft. Leonard Wood
Posts: 6,164
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Key Transmitter Repair (new switch didn't fix it?)
I recently repaired a couple of key transmitters for Martin (Fintro11), so thought I'd pass the info along.
Symptoms:
Both transmitters LEDs would flash when buttons were pressed, but either no response from car or intermittent function.
Battery would quickly drain.
Failure:
Flexing of the circuit board from years of button presses caused broken solder joints on the rear of the board.
Repair:
First test all buttons with a DVM set to continuity and confirm function.
De-solder and remove battery holder from the rear of the board.
Inspect all solder joints for breaks (will require 30x magnification inspection scope or equivalent - cannot be seen with the naked eye).
Reflow all solder joints with flux, a fine tip iron and scope. A very steady hand and some basic knowledge of electronics soldering is required. Too much heat or flux will destroy components and/or circuit traces and stray solder will cause shorts.
After soldering is finished, gently clean the boards with isopropyl alcohol and a soft bristle brush to remove any debris and excess flux, then examine all joints under magnification to ensure proper repair.
Reattach battery holder. Enjoy your working key transmitter.
This picture shows some broken solder joints under 30x magnification.
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Last edited by particlewave; 08-11-2018 at 10:02 AM.
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04-25-2017, 11:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada
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Can't thank Charles enough! I paid the dealer $300 + for a third key. Charles was able to fix my two paper weights!
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04-27-2017, 03:06 AM
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Multi-Boxer Driver
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Orange Park, FL
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Looks like I may be sending mine off to you soon, PW. ![Smilie](http://www.986forum.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif) When mine doesn't "work", I can pull the upper half off and press on the battery holder to make it complete. Knew what the issue is, but my soldering skills are atrocious.
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2004 Porsche Boxster 2.7
1991 Porsche 911 C2 Targa 3.6
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04-27-2017, 03:36 AM
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I am No. 1348
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Tampa/FL
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Great work Charles!! Thanks for the write up! (I also saw this on the Facebook page and meant to comment)
Question: I have a 2004 BSSE, Is it possible to remove the electronics and the key and replace the outer case with a new one? My buttons look and feel mangled and thought a new case would freshen them up nicely.
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04-27-2017, 08:23 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Greater Seattle, WA
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I've done this fix on my 2001 3-button key fob. It made the remote feature work reliably. Before I did it, the led light would flash reliably, but the actual remote unlocking wireless communication would not happen reliably.
So, this fix gave the perception of the remote getting a longer range, although I think it always had a healthy range, but just was unreliable intermittent in operation. (Therefore, for anyone who think their remote has shorter range than it should, ought to actually look into doing this solder reflowing fix!)
The key fob had worn out button switches, which required pressing hard to get them to work. (Car was sold and delivered to me by previous owner in this condition). The high force required to press the buttons may have damaged the solder joints. (I had tried replacing the button switches with new ones before I moved on to reflowing the solder joints.)
I have a second key fob that has a "lazy blinking LED" that still won't work wirelessly, even after replacing the buttons *and* reflowing the solder joints. When button is pressed, the led light flashes more slowly than on the key fob that works.
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04-28-2017, 10:03 PM
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Custom User Title Here
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ft. Leonard Wood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by algiorda
Great work Charles!! Thanks for the write up! (I also saw this on the Facebook page and meant to comment)
Question: I have a 2004 BSSE, Is it possible to remove the electronics and the key and replace the outer case with a new one? My buttons look and feel mangled and thought a new case would freshen them up nicely.
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Thanks
You can definitely transfer everything over to a new case (blade, transmitter circuit board and transponder pill).
Avoid the cheap eBay cases, though. The buttons are typically hard plastic and very hard to push. Best to shell out the extra money for OEM or a known good source.
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04-30-2017, 01:42 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Santa Monica
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Just bought a 2005 triptronic Boxster (only one Key)
Hello All
Any thoughts on where I can get a second key for the used 2005 triptronic Boxster I just bought from a So Cal Porsche dealership on Friday...It came with one key which split open the day after I bought the car....this weekend after driving it only 40 miles it started spitting out clean/clear oil underneath the car (teaspoon size) needless to say I'm taking it back to the dealership service dept. on Monday....
But your thoughts on sources for keys would be welcomed as this is my first Porsche and I'm a bit in shock right now!
Thanks
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05-01-2017, 04:52 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marcomarco
Hello All
Any thoughts on where I can get a second key for the used 2005 triptronic Boxster I just bought from a So Cal Porsche dealership on Friday...It came with one key which split open the day after I bought the car....this weekend after driving it only 40 miles it started spitting out clean/clear oil underneath the car (teaspoon size) needless to say I'm taking it back to the dealership service dept. on Monday....
But your thoughts on sources for keys would be welcomed as this is my first Porsche and I'm a bit in shock right now!
Thanks
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05-08-2017, 01:28 PM
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Damn Yankee
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,117
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Quote:
Originally Posted by particlewave
I recently repaired a couple of key transmitters for Martin (Fintro11), so thought I'd pass the info along.
Symptoms:
Both transmitters LEDs would flash when buttons were pressed, but either no response from car or intermittent function.
Battery would quickly drain.
Failure:
Flexing of the circuit board from years of button presses caused broken solder joints on the rear of the board.
Repair:
First test all buttons with a DVM set to continuity and confirm function.
De-solder and remove battery holder from the rear of the board.
Inspect all solder joints for breaks (will require 30x magnification inspection scope or equivalent - cannot be seen with the naked eye).
Reflow all solder joints with flux, a fine tip iron and scope. A very steady hand and some basic knowledge of electronics soldering is required. Too much heat or flux will destroy components and/or circuit traces and stray solder will cause shorts.
After soldering is finished, gently clean the boards with isopropyl alcohol and a soft bristle brush to remove any debris and excess flux, then examine all joints under magnification to ensure proper repair.
Reattach battery holder. Enjoy your working key transmitter.
Alternatively, you can send them to me for repair at a cost of $30 each, flat rate for U.S. (add $10 for international shipping).
PM or email me at aerohawk13@hotmail.com
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I sent one of my keys out to Charles less than a week ago and received my repaired key transmitter from Charles today. I must say I was impressed with the workmanship. Also, the functionality of the unit. It works as new.
Charles repaired bad solder joints (as expected), a broken battery connection at the board and replaced a missing capacitor. He also replaced both button switches.
I've already sent my second key in for repair. IMHO the service is well worth the $30.00. Certainly beats buying a new key.
Just sayin'............
TO
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08-18-2017, 11:27 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Chandler, AZ
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I will also give props to Particlewave for fixing my transmitter. Very reasonable price and quick turnaround. I would highly recommend him if you have a key transmitterin need of repair.
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10-03-2017, 11:53 AM
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Thom
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Florida
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How long
This is a fantastic opportunity as I am having the same issues. however, i only have one key and my 2000 S is my daily driver. I'm in Florida, and no pressure or anythign, but how long turn-around time is to be expected.
I was not looking forward to spending $300 for a new key so this opportunity is seriously awesome.
Cheers.
Thom
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10-09-2017, 09:43 PM
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Custom User Title Here
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ft. Leonard Wood
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Thom,
Sorry. I just saw this. You can keep your key so you can still drive. I'd only need the circuit board.
PM me for details.
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11-21-2017, 10:33 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 27
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Hey particlewave,
I was wondering if you might be able to do the switch repair on my Boxster key?
Thanks!
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11-22-2017, 06:34 PM
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Need For Speed
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Funville
Posts: 2,112
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Have you thought about trying to reflow the solder using your oven as we do with graphics cards?
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12-10-2017, 10:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 27
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No I haven't, but it may be worth a shot because one key circuit board is totally shot.
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12-10-2017, 11:19 AM
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Custom User Title Here
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ft. Leonard Wood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by all986S
No I haven't, but it may be worth a shot because one key circuit board is totally shot.
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Sorry, I just now saw your post. Send me a PM with your symptoms and we can go from there.
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12-10-2017, 04:03 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Europe
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Damnit, I wish I've seen this thread a few days ago.. Same symptoms, battery draining etc.. I've now ordered a new one from Dealer $220. *feeling stupid*
Edit: I have an extra key, which was working. After pressing it many times, while being away from the car signal area, it has stopped working.. I've heard that if it's being pressed over 1024 times, it's becoming useless, but I don't know if it's true. Currently, the light flashes but nothing else happens.(No battery draining either)
Last edited by Lacostas; 12-10-2017 at 04:07 PM.
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03-14-2018, 06:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 8
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Hey, I sent you an email, but never heard a response. Are you still willing to fix key fobs? Mine is draining the little batteries about once every 2 weeks. I'd hat eto have to buy a new one from the dealer. Thanks
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03-15-2018, 06:47 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: LB, Germany
Posts: 1,473
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Same problem here. One switch didn't work and battery drained.
Couldn't find a problem on the back side (my magnification glass is only 10x), but reflowed it. On the front the conductor track near to the switch that didn't worked was damaged. Repaired it with a small wire.
Baking electronic components in an oven to "reflow" isn't a good idea.
Last edited by Smallblock454; 03-15-2018 at 08:50 AM.
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08-11-2018, 09:51 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1
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Hi all, I just purchased an 01 boxster, both keys are missing the circuit board. Any idea where to source these?
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