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		|  05-14-2016, 05:10 PM | #1 |  
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			Hi guys, 
Ive read all the posts about replacing the electric ignition switch on early year boxsters.  Ive tried to get at it from under the dash and also thru the ac side vent.  Has anyone removed the instrument cluster to get at the switch and does that help?  Looks like you should be able to access the switch easily if the cluster is removed.
 
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		|  05-14-2016, 05:43 PM | #2 |  
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			By the time you got the dash cluster half disconnected, I would have already replaced the switch.
		 
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			If you go this route you will also have to remove the plastic piece below the cluster.  Then i think you can get to the switch.  I had to do this to remove the plastic trim strip just under the switch.  I still can't believe that little piece is held on with 4 torx screws.The ignition switch is much easier to get off than the trim strip was.
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		|  05-15-2016, 06:36 AM | #4 |  
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			I did mine this week and it took about 3 hours, I removed the vent on the left side and it was about the best way to loosen that one screw and tighten it.
		 
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		|  05-21-2016, 06:29 AM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by JFP in PA  By the time you got the dash cluster half disconnected, I would have already replaced the switch. |  
Hey JFP, you must be some mechanic.  Ive removed the cluster a cpl of times and it takes about 10-20 minutes max.  Two torx screws and a few wire harness disconnects.
 
So to replace the ignition switch in a max of 10 minutes is amazing!!!!According to all Ive read on this forum it's an agonizing, tedious job needing small tools and a lot of contorting.  That's been my unsuccessful experience also.  Your post was not helpful.
 
Dont'cha love guys who use forums to belittle people for no good reason I guess to make themselves feel better.
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			JFP is probably the most helpful person on this forum and a few others. I'm sure his comment was not meant to belittle you in anyway. I think his point was that you'll spend more time taking the cluster off than it would take to go from the bottom like most people do. I like when people think outside the box but I also dont think going from the top is a better idea. The screws you would need to remove would be harder to get at from that angle.
		 
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		|  05-21-2016, 10:09 AM | #7 |  
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			I switched mine by going under with my feet way up in the air not much room but you will get it
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		|  05-21-2016, 11:18 AM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by itsnotanova  JFP is probably the most helpful person on this forum and a few others. I'm sure his comment was not meant to belittle you in anyway. I think his point was that you'll spend more time taking the cluster off than it would take to go from the bottom like most people do. I like when people think outside the box but I also dont think going from the top is a better idea. The screws you would need to remove would be harder to get at from that angle. |  
+1 on JFP'S helpfulness and knowledge.  That man has helped me numerous times.  Remember, don't  bite the hand that feeds you.
		 
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		|  05-21-2016, 06:39 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by 022520  Hey JFP, you must be some mechanic.  Ive removed the cluster a cpl of times and it takes about 10-20 minutes max.  Two torx screws and a few wire harness disconnects.
 So to replace the ignition switch in a max of 10 minutes is amazing!!!!According to all Ive read on this forum it's an agonizing, tedious job needing small tools and a lot of contorting.  That's been my unsuccessful experience also.  Your post was not helpful.
 
 Dont'cha love guys who use forums to belittle people for no good reason I guess to make themselves feel better.
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Uhmm, removing the cluster will not help one bit in getting your ignition switch out.
 
Going through the drivers side AC vent makes this a 20 minute job.  Mind you, the first time you tackle this job, it does seem a lot harder than it really is.  Take your vent back out and have at it again.  
 
You need a very short jewelers screw driver.  If your ignition switch is original, the screws will have a little bit of paint on them that makes them a bit harder to remove.
 
I loosen one screw through the vent and the other looking up from under  the dash.
 
Don't overthink this...it really is a small job that just appears daunting.
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			hey guys thanks for the input but.....
 my original post indicated that I had tried the stand on your head approach.  I'm 6'1'' 220 and 65 yrs old with two artificial knees.  Former football player with shoulders to match.  Getting at it from the bottom isn't happening.  My next option is to take it to my mechanic.
 
 I didn't think J's original post was helpful at all unless he was offering to come to the house and do it for me.  Maybe he didn't read my original post closely enough so based on your say so's I'll cut him some slack.
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		|  05-22-2016, 07:26 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by 022520  hey guys thanks for the input but.....
 my original post indicated that I had tried the stand on your head approach.  I'm 6'1'' 220 and 65 yrs old with two artificial knees.  Former football player with shoulders to match.  Getting at it from the bottom isn't happening.  My next option is to take it to my mechanic.
 
 I didn't think J's original post was helpful at all unless he was offering to come to the house and do it for me.  Maybe he didn't read my original post closely enough so based on your say so's I'll cut him some slack.
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		|  05-22-2016, 08:06 AM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by 022520  hey guys thanks for the input but.....
 my original post indicated that I had tried the stand on your head approach.  I'm 6'1'' 220 and 65 yrs old with two artificial knees.  Former football player with shoulders to match.  Getting at it from the bottom isn't happening.  My next option is to take it to my mechanic.
 
 I didn't think J's original post was helpful at all unless he was offering to come to the house and do it for me.  Maybe he didn't read my original post closely enough so based on your say so's I'll cut him some slack.
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No grandkids or neighbourhood kids ? I'm 6' and 220 and was close to giving up having a super small screwdriver is the key. 
 
Drive it up here and I'll do it for ya haha might be a little far
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		|  05-22-2016, 08:56 AM | #13 |  
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			Did you take out the headlamp switch? It's been a while so I don't remember if you have to do that to get the ac vent out. I did my ignition switch all from the top through the headlamp switch area and reaching under, and without getting down on the floor. I took a few pics, look for spinnaker's ignition switch thread for details, or I will link.it Monday.
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		|  07-14-2016, 05:33 AM | #15 |  
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			I just did mine and someone doing it complete in 20 min ? I removed the vent. I spent more time trying to contort my body than the actual install.I wonder what amount of time Porsche bills for the job. Betcha it aint 20 min.
		 
 
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