11-01-2015, 04:21 AM
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I wish I could get my hands on a factory aerokit or a cayman wing. Just don't go too far like this guy.
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11-01-2015, 05:55 AM
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I'm guessing the guys who designed the car and did the wind tunnel testing knew a thing or two about aerodynamics and the need for the retractable air dam that comes with the car. It is functional if not stylish which is what Porsche is all about.
Contrast that with econo-box ricers that come standard with garish and somewhat outlandish single, double and sometimes triple wings which likely do absolutely nothing except add to the price of the car and make it hard to clean properly. Some of the recent cars put the wing on a Lambo to shame.
Give me function over form all day long.
Last edited by paulofto; 11-02-2015 at 07:08 AM.
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11-01-2015, 09:22 AM
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Ben-Auto-Design
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulofto
I'm guessing the guys who designed the car and did the wind tunnel testing knew a thing or two about aerodynamics and the need for the retractable air dam that comes with the car. It is functional if not stylish which is what Porsche is all about.
Contrast that with econo-box ricers that come standard with garish and somewhat outlandish single, double and sometimes triple wings which likely do absolutely nothing except add to the price of the car and make it hard to clean properly. Some of the recent cars put the wing on a Contact to shame.
Give me function over form all day long.
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They knew a thing or two about engines too... and they still came up with the single row IMS bearing idea 
Because they are engineer doesn't mean they take the best decision all the time based on functionality !
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11-01-2015, 10:14 AM
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It's there for a reason. The earlier Audi TTs, a car that has a similar shape, had an issue with the rear getting light at speed with a few fatal incidents. To fix that Audi added a spoiler and then some. An engine blowing due to a cost cutting IMS is something completely different then a car that's unstable at speed. For your own safety and the safety of others be smart about a cosmetic mod that will change how a car handles.
Audi Offers TT Fix After 5 Deaths - NYTimes.com
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11-03-2015, 09:05 AM
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Ben-Auto-Design
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Originally Posted by Porsche9
It's there for a reason. The earlier Audi TTs, a car that has a similar shape, had an issue with the rear getting light at speed with a few fatal incidents. To fix that Audi added a spoiler and then some. An engine blowing due to a cost cutting IMS is something completely different then a car that's unstable at speed. For your own safety and the safety of others be smart about a cosmetic mod that will change how a car handles.
Audi Offers TT Fix After 5 Deaths - NYTimes.com |
My point was just that because something is designed a certain way, doesn't you can't improve on it...
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11-04-2015, 09:37 AM
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2003 S, Arctic Silver, M6
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Originally Posted by Ben006
My point was just that because something is designed a certain way, doesn't you can't improve on it...
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Maybe you can improve on it but how will you know you've improved anything unless you can do some aero testing like the designers did. Wind tunnels are the only way.
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11-04-2015, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by paulofto
Maybe you can improve on it but how will you know you've improved anything unless you can do some aero testing like the designers did. Wind tunnels are the only way.
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Well there's always empirical data like the kind that Audi had with the TT! 
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12-04-2015, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben006
My point was just that because something is designed a certain way, doesn't you can't improve on it...
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Yes, but are you really smarter than a Porsche Automotive Engineer? There are literally thousands of posts dedicated to "improvement" on the design and an equal number of failures the so called "improvements" have resulted in. It's a great design, just go enjoy it. 
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12-05-2015, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Box
Yes, but are you really smarter than a Porsche Automotive Engineer? There are literally thousands of posts dedicated to "improvement" on the design and an equal number of failures the so called "improvements" have resulted in. It's a great design, just go enjoy it. |
Your statement may be incorrect. Every one has failed? Maybe many, or most, but not all. Do the folks at Gembella and Ruf know that their stuff doesn't work as well? Do all those folks that race their cars use completely stock setups? Many industries separate design functions between design engineers and designers who are not degreed engineers, and many use engineers who do not have a "stamp", i.e. they have an engineering degree but no state license. Which group designed this part? Why does SEMA exist? AMG? M? Shelby?
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