04-29-2015, 01:02 PM
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still plays with cars...
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Location: Baden, ON, Canada
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Ben, buddy, pal,
how much will one cost me?
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Arctic Silver on Metropol Blue | LN Dual Row IMSR | Arctic Silver console, spoiler frame & bumperettes | Crios mod | Technobrace | RoboTop module & modified convertible top relay for one-touch roof operation
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04-29-2015, 01:27 PM
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Ben-Auto-Design
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: French Riviera
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around 300$ shipped in the US.
I will also design one for the 83mm TB soon.
It's not "cheap", but still a fraction of what an IPD costs, and the benefit of having the same shape as the original one.
It will also depend on what I will use for the intake tube and if I include one or let you decide !
So I can't tell you a definitive price right now, but it will be around that.
Once I will have the actual parts in my hands, then installed in my car, I will be able to be more accurate
Ben
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04-29-2015, 02:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben006
The material will resist to oil and fuel
I don't know yet wich intake pipe will fit.
I tought the 3.2 used the same 68mm TB as the 2.7 ?
The nuts are hold in place in four hexagonal holes in the back of the mouting part.
Ben
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Yes you are correct. I am just hoping for/to: use the stock 3.2 intake pipe with and adapter on the end along with a 74mm TB; outlets matching the intake plenum dia.; an AOS port that matches the stock location, so that a stock AOS hose can snap right in.
your angle looks pretty close to stock so the stock pipe looks promising....trust me when I say that this will be a big plus.
You could just 3D scan the stock pieces and then bring them into your software, modify to suit a 74mm TB...optimizing bend radii where possible....hmmm sounds like a business op
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04-29-2015, 02:45 PM
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Ben-Auto-Design
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: French Riviera
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A laser scanning tool costs more than my car ^^
But I don't need one
If I had the plenum out of the car (I should have bought an used one... but didn't want to spend too much money, and at the time, I thought that a straight one could fit ...) I could have easily replicate one :/
the stock 3.2 and 2.7 intake pipes are the same too, right ? problem is that the diameter start to decrease immediatly after the MAF from 76mm to ~70mm at the TB.
But I will figure it out
The outlets are the same diameter inside (1mm more outside, with a taper to slide them easily into the boots).
for the AOS, it should clip back on without problem (the only problem is the plastic hose is easy to break).
So I think I'm pretty close to your requirement
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05-21-2015, 11:27 AM
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Ben-Auto-Design
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: French Riviera
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Hi !
after months of designing and two weeks of waiting ...
here is the plenum
The added thickness made it really stiffer
I can't test it immediatly, my instructors at school want to see it ! and my CEL is on... so it doesn't makes sense right now.
so end of next week for the results
But I am really confident with it !
Ben
For the intake tube, I think I'm going to try the AirAid UBI kit
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05-21-2015, 07:41 PM
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Location: toronto
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Looks very nice!!
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05-21-2015, 07:54 PM
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So this is similar to what Pedro sells ??
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05-21-2015, 08:05 PM
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Ben-Auto-Design
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: French Riviera
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thanks
Here's more
As you can see, I quite nailed it
I'm pretty proud of my self here, as replacating a part that complicated without having it with you is quite hard !
and even better... the evap hose clamp right on the new plenum ! (I will have to move the connection a little for the next ones, but it works !).
also, if you need another proof of the strengh of the part, I tried to stand on the old one... and it held my 175 pounds
I still have few more test to do, but I stay confident !
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05-21-2015, 08:08 PM
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Ben-Auto-Design
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: French Riviera
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pdwight
So this is similar to what Pedro sells ??
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similar to the technotorque and IPD plenum and every other ones yes.
but it has the shape of the stock plenum, and retaine the stock evap hose (from AOS and plenum) and boots, just needs a new intake tube
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05-21-2015, 08:13 PM
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Are you 3D printing these or 5 axis or ?
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05-21-2015, 08:17 PM
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Ben-Auto-Design
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: French Riviera
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3D printing!
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05-21-2015, 08:48 PM
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How much are they going to cost ?
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05-22-2015, 05:39 AM
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Will you be testing this set up on the dyno? You mentioned testing in a week.
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05-22-2015, 06:33 AM
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I am impressed. Good luck with your CEL. They can be a PITA.
I might be interested in buying one from you if/when they become available although I already have a 997 Plenum. Your design will get the throttle body a little lower and my intake setup cleaner.
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05-22-2015, 07:52 AM
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Ben-Auto-Design
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: French Riviera
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pdwight
How much are they going to cost ?
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As I say on the top of this page, around 300$, but I will depend on wethet I need to paint it or not
Quote:
Originally Posted by heliguy
Will you be testing this set up on the dyno? You mentioned testing in a week.
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I will try to get it on the dyno, but I can't garantee it :/
The testing will be more about reliability. I will put it on my car, and abuse it, then take it off and see if there is any problem.
Then, if I decide that it's good, you will get some
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bfan
I am impressed. Good luck with your CEL. They can be a PITA.
I might be interested in buying one from you if/when they become available although I already have a 997 Plenum. Your design will get the throttle body a little lower and my intake setup cleaner.
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I hope the sensor was the problem, will see next week if the CEL comes back.
Yes, the TB will sit at the stock location
Ben
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05-22-2015, 08:34 AM
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Location: Florida
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What size TB will you be using? Stock 996?
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05-22-2015, 08:44 AM
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Ben-Auto-Design
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: French Riviera
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yep, stock 996 TB, way bigger than the stock 68mm.
The 83mm is a bit expensive for me ... but I will make the plenum for too
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05-22-2015, 11:44 AM
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What is the size of the stock 996 TB?
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05-22-2015, 11:59 AM
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Ben-Auto-Design
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Location: French Riviera
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74mm at the plate 76mm at the largest.
The stock TB fits inside the 996's !
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05-22-2015, 04:12 PM
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Location: Florida
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WOW! We need more air. Will yours be a direct fit, basically plug and play with the 996TB? Add a 987 airbox and we are in business?
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