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Old 03-08-2009, 05:52 PM   #1
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Do it! That's what I did.

Installed headers today. Wow - it is MUCH louder. Wonder how the wife is going to feel about this.
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:38 PM   #2
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what kind of headers?.. the ones from ebay?
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:25 PM   #3
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I picked up the MaxSpeed headers that Rareair was selling. I grabbed 'em from Rareair this AM, installed this afternoon, drove around more this evening, and just finished reinstalling the stockers.

Lots of loud - more than I want. It definitely sounded awesome, but over the top for my tastes. So I'll be reselling 'em...

It was worth a try for the $75 Rareair was selling them for...
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:33 PM   #4
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do u have a clip of how they sounded.. and i am doing the pedro mod myself ..
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:52 PM   #5
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I'm impressed - you installed headers, then took them off and resintalled - all in a day. not bad!! I think that is a job that is over my head.

well I took the plunge and I drilled into my muffler and did the "crios" mod.

I just took it out for a quick spin but didn't have time to take any video. My initial impression is that it is a little louder/ throatier at upper rpm, and a little louder at full rpm. I notice more of a change at low rpm than I do at higher rpms. overall the change is not drastic.

I will drive it around like this for a week and see what i think. It was pretty easy. the drill only took about 10 seconds to punch trhough each side. I started with a small bit - a 3/8" and honestly - nothing changed. that hole was too small to notice anything. I then used a 1/2" bit and opened up the smaller hole into a 1/2" hole. when I fired it up after THIS hole, then I noticed a louder sound at idle. at low rpm....you notice it's throatier. like if you were just rolling through a parking lot, you can tell there is a bit more depth to the sound.

immeidately after I did this, and I took it out for an initial spin - one thing I immeidately noticed was the possible thought that i lost low end..... I can't say for sure, but I am wondering if I lost a bit low low end power by doing this.....it may just be all in my head, because of people saying how a high flow exhaust can cause you to lose low end...but one of the first reactions I had as I drove away froma stop was "did I lose soem low end power"....so the next few turns I took, i hammered the gas, and I can't say that I thought it was any slower...

it clearly is NO faster...and I don't think it's any slower....but can anyone suggest their thoughts - could this mod cause you to LOSE low end power?

I'll drive it around for a week - see what I think. I figure if I hate it - I can always tell my wife I broke the muffler and now I NEED to buy afull Fabspeed sytem...

hahahahhhahhha.

i htink she'll tell me to just sell the car... .
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Old 03-08-2009, 09:12 PM   #6
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Without a Dyno, it would be very hard to notice a loss or gain.

To me, my car seems "faster" as it is simply "louder".

I'm into enjoying the way my car sounds and drives around curves, and not so much the actual seconds it takes from 0-60 mph. If this was my concern I woundn't have a spare tire, heated seats or a Bose system in the car

My suggestion, if you like the sound then enjoy the mod. :dance:

Some more sound clips, theses taken with professional equipment:

http://www.ppbb.com/boards/ppbbphp/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ARCHIVES&Number=1480272

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Old 03-09-2009, 10:53 AM   #7
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Drilling straight back with extra-long bit

What happens if you drill straight back and only penetrate the relatively narrow space of the central outer shell, missing the inner metal tubes? The result is an opening both through the exhaust tips and at the rear outer casing of the muffler.

Good? Bad? Little or no difference?

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