04-25-2012, 06:08 PM
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Good info Sumflow.
Leave it to someone in Florida to have the method to resurrect a repeatedly wet control module.
One question - Is this car still street driven or is it a dedicated racecar?
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04-25-2012, 07:04 PM
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Racecar spelled backwards is still racecar.
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Is this car still street driven or is it a dedicated racecar?
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Is there a difference?
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05-02-2012, 03:49 PM
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Quote:
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Is this car still street driven or is it a dedicated racecar?
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Is there a difference?
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The short answer is - Yes, there is a difference.
You really don't need the Central Locking Unit, Imobilizer or windows that roll up or down on a racecar. Read the rules of your class then rip out everything you can, you can always add weight back later.
The box under the seat has two control units in it.
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05-02-2012, 04:46 PM
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Real racing

The car in front at the finish wins. That is if the theft control module will let you start the car in the first place.
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Originally Posted by MaxD
The short answer is - Yes, there is a difference.
You really don't need the Central Locking Unit, Immobilizer or windows that roll up or down on a racecar. Read the rules of your class then rip out everything you can, you can always add weight back later.
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I don't see why a car would need a Central Locking Unit or Immobilizer on the street or the track. As long as the windows still worked. You could rip out the other stuff and go undetected on the street and track. Especially if its only real function is to lock the driver out of there own car. I don't see why it matters where the car is driven as long as you finish in front. These boxes do not help us do that.
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One question - Is this car still street driven or is it a dedicated racecar?
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What I thought you were going to get into was the philosophical, "Is this car street driven or is it a dedicated racecar?" Which of course leads to the car being a street driven dedicated racecar, used for pleasure as compared to menial transportation. Dedicated to having fun and winning the occasional dice under natural conditions. Real racing is street racing against strangers, with all of its unknowns and unexpected thrills thrown in. No one is fooled, racing under some supposed self appointed authority, on an artificial simulated street is "pretend." It is just make believe racing.
* Auto racing began 5 minutes after the second car was built. ~ Henry Ford
* A racing car has only one objective: to win motor races. If it does not do this it is nothing but a waste of time, money, and effort. ~ Colin Chapman: Inside the Innovator
Five minutes after the second car was built there was no authority, no fake road courses, but there was real racing. Real racing came before, and is not dependent on authority or closed circuits. The racecar build objective is to finish in front, not just finish in front with some parental organizations approval, on a phony course. Why do you enjoy passing?
Last edited by Sumflow; 05-02-2012 at 05:02 PM.
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05-02-2012, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sumflow
[ Real racing is street racing against strangers, with all of its unknowns and unexpected thrills thrown in. No one is fooled, racing under some supposed self appointed authority, on an artificial simulated street is "pretend." It is just make believe racing.
Five minutes after the second car was built there was no authority, no fake road courses, but there was real racing. Real racing came before, and is not dependent on authority or closed circuits. The racecar build objective is to finish in front, not just finish in front with some parental organizations approval, on a phony course. Why do you enjoy passing?
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While this has nothing to do with your drive box problems, please don't street race. You post indicates that street racing is the only true race. Just last Christmas a 7 year old girl was struck by a car in our town when two clowns were trying to look cool street racing. Her parents later were forced to pull the plug when her brain activity ceased. There is a reason why racing is sanctioned under authority and practiced on closed circuits.
As for your belief that anything other than street racing is fake, I suggest you try your hand at F1, Gt3, Lemans, or hell, even the much criticized Nascar. Come back when you win. Yeah, anyone can mash the peddle and go fast driving on the street, but it takes refined skills to be a competent and skilled driver on the track. We all have our own opinions of racing which is totally one's prerogative, but I assure you it is no "pretend" or "fake" skill on the track. You truly crossed a line when you called these pros that could and would leave you in the dust in any race, "phony."
Last edited by Kenny Boxster; 05-02-2012 at 11:38 PM.
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05-03-2012, 12:01 AM
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Road racing
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But I assure you it is no "pretend" or "fake" skill on the track.
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Not phony racing on the track. But the track itself is a fake artificial road.
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05-03-2012, 07:46 PM
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Not phony racing on the track. But the track itself is a fake artificial road.
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Yeah, that is something any rational person can agree upon. Track conditions don't reflect upon ideal every day conditions. Just a misunderstanding you could say.  Nonetheless, I urge others not to drive recklessly in public conditions.
This thread is somewhat hijacked and should go back to helping out the poor guy's drive box. Sumflow, please keep us updated, as I am interested in finding out what solution works for the faulty drive box.
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05-03-2012, 10:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumflow
Not phony racing on the track. But the track itself is a fake artificial road.
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Sorry Sumflow but you just don't get it. A racetrack is an arena where two or more gladiators can duke it out without taking out someone's innocent grandmother or 4 yr old daughter in the process. It's simply a mayhem containment vessel.  We don't do cage fighting in our momma's kitchen, and we don't go racing where someone's little precious might be walking home from school.
Racing on public roads is just :chicken:
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05-03-2012, 06:27 AM
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is there are very big different.
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