Drive Box bypass

[Kenny Boxster]

Originally Posted by Sumflow

[ Real racing is street racing against strangers, with all of its unknowns and unexpected thrills thrown in. No one is fooled, racing under some supposed self appointed authority, on an artificial simulated street is "pretend." It is just make believe racing.

Five minutes after the second car was built there was no authority, no fake road courses, but there was real racing. Real racing came before, and is not dependent on authority or closed circuits. The racecar build objective is to finish in front, not just finish in front with some parental organizations approval, on a phony course. Why do you enjoy passing?

While this has nothing to do with your drive box problems, please don't street race. You post indicates that street racing is the only true race. Just last Christmas a 7 year old girl was struck by a car in our town when two clowns were trying to look cool street racing. Her parents later were forced to pull the plug when her brain activity ceased. There is a reason why racing is sanctioned under authority and practiced on closed circuits.



As for your belief that anything other than street racing is fake, I suggest you try your hand at F1, Gt3, Lemans, or hell, even the much criticized Nascar. Come back when you win. Yeah, anyone can mash the peddle and go fast driving on the street, but it takes refined skills to be a competent and skilled driver on the track. We all have our own opinions of racing which is totally one's prerogative, but I assure you it is no "pretend" or "fake" skill on the track. You truly crossed a line when you called these pros that could and would leave you in the dust in any race, "phony."

[Sumflow]

Originally Posted by Kenny Boxster

But I assure you it is no "pretend" or "fake" skill on the track.

Not phony racing on the track. But the track itself is a fake artificial road.

[Kenny Boxster]

Originally Posted by Sumflow

Not phony racing on the track. But the track itself is a fake artificial road.

Yeah, that is something any rational person can agree upon. Track conditions don't reflect upon ideal every day conditions. Just a misunderstanding you could say. Nonetheless, I urge others not to drive recklessly in public conditions.

This thread is somewhat hijacked and should go back to helping out the poor guy's drive box. Sumflow, please keep us updated, as I am interested in finding out what solution works for the faulty drive box.

[Topless]

Originally Posted by Sumflow

Not phony racing on the track. But the track itself is a fake artificial road.

Sorry Sumflow but you just don't get it. A racetrack is an arena where two or more gladiators can duke it out without taking out someone's innocent grandmother or 4 yr old daughter in the process. It's simply a mayhem containment vessel. We don't do cage fighting in our momma's kitchen, and we don't go racing where someone's little precious might be walking home from school.

Racing on public roads is just :chicken:

[Sumflow]

I had a neighbor racing at LeMans, and while he was waiting for his car to come in, a chain of events led to 83 speculators deaths. Is that what you mean by an arena for gladiators?

Originally Posted by Topless

A racetrack is an arena where two or more gladiators can duke it out without taking out someone's innocent grandmother or 4 yr old daughter in the process.

The only way you can be sure your grandmother and kid will be safe is to have them watch the race on TV. These events happen because track owners are only concerned with making money. Any thing track owners do for safety is because they are forced to do it, and they drag on and delay as long as they can.

See: Death at the track

[Topless]

Originally Posted by Sumflow

I had a neighbor racing at LeMans, and while he was waiting for his car to come in, a chain of events led to 83 speculators deaths. Is that what you mean by an arena for gladiators?The only way you can be sure your grandmother and kid will be safe is to have them watch the race on TV. These events happen because track owners are only concerned with making money. Any thing track owners do for safety is because they are forced to do it, and they drag on and delay as long as they can.

Yes, that was a tragic accident. What year was that accident at Le Mans? 1955? Has anything as terrible as that happened since? In 1955 they still ran a foot race to their cars for the start and many didn't even wear seatbelts. Those spectators knew there was a race going on and volunteered (paid tickets) to be there. They weren't just out walking their dog on a country road at night.

Yes, safety has come a long long way in 1/2 a century and race track owners have made it much safer for both drivers and spectators. It is an excellent place to hold a speed contest unlike public roads where you cannot control who else is on it. Is it still a dangerous sport? Racing is always dangerous. Don't get it twisted Sumflow. Race tracks are about controlling who is on the track and containing the mayhem. It's not about corporations at a local level at all. When Penske or McLaren calls you up to race for them... THEN it is about the money.

I still have hope for you yet. It took me the loss of two friends and one in a permanent wheelchair to figure out how truly :chicken: street racing is. Perhaps you will figure it out before your own sister or daughter is killed by someone you know who is just out doing a little "real" racing in your neighborhood.

[Sumflow]

Porsche does not have anything called an Immo Box or an Ecu in the technical literature, so don't stay up all night trying to find it. I don't know what this picture shows. The computer under the seat of a Boxster is called a Drive box by Porsche. The Drive box chip contains one control module for the immobilizer, central locking, and alarm units. My Drive box was wrapped in plastic over a year ago to protect it from water, it has not been wet. It did not show signs of corrosion or rust. It was not broken or dirty. In the boot secured by a few easy to reach bolts, and the wire plug in harness, is what Porsche calls a DME (digital motor electronics), or a ECM (engine control module). Both showed clear codes when tested by the Ecu Doctors equipment. Which tells me that just because its shows clear at your dealer, does not mean it is clear. In my case I saved a hassle, by not have the car towed all the way to a dealer to find that out, before we sent the parts to the Specialist. What they are doing is giving permission to the DME to start the car.

My Drive box, DME, and Transponder in the key, after a week long trip with UPS arrived in Florida on Friday. They started work Monday morning, opening at 9:00 am, they fixed it and were preparing it for shipment back to me by 10:00 am when they called. It is taking ten days for UPS to bring it back. In a week I will see if it is plug and drive.

I want to thank Jitts for linking me up with Ecu (whatever that is) repair, in the second reply in this thread. And not sending me on some Wild Goose chase with no links.

[Jittsl]

Anytime. Hope it all works out for you.

In my case (for my race car) they built me a replacement DME that had no dependence on the Drive Box at all. My ECU does not wait for a signal so I was ale to remove the drive Box and the key. Works great for a race car and saves a bunch of weight.