Dension Gateway 500 iPod Adapter Arrived Today - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

rickhuizinga · 01-18-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by laphil

So HOW did you get it to work? I have an 05 987 with BOSE and no CD changer. I have the GW500 and took the unit to a very reputable audio house (recommended by BH Porsche, etc) The installer flipped the dips to Porsche mode and installed in the front trunk downstream from the amp. He also tried as first unit on the bus as there's only a BOSE amp. Oddly enough, whatever was downstream from the GW500 failed (the bus wouldn't recognize it.)

BH Porsche was kind enough to verify MOST bus for me (verified that the Head Unit had CDC enabled as well...) The end game was this unit DIDN'T work on my bus. It kept killing the BOSE or the head unit.

Any thoughts????

Also, the Porsche documentation / fiber packet that comes with the kit says the GW/CD bypass switch doesn't work on Porsches... yours does??

Hmmm - I didn't get the notice about the bypass switch not working, but that explains why I couldn't get the configuration menu to come up (it requires 3 cycles of the bypass switch).

Does your car have NAV?

With the Gateway 500 installed, do the rest of the devices work? I.e. Can you hear the radio and/or CD? This would indicate that your installer didn't reverse the input vs. output, and that your Gateway 500 is getting power.

What I'm trying to get at is that I've read that the CDR23/24 requires recoding using the dealer's PIWIS system when adding a CD changer. The PCM can, however, auto-discover the addition of a CD changer. I'm no expert, I just read this somewhere about installing a CD changer.

Since the Gateway 500 emulates a CD changer, a CDR23/24 head unit would need to be re-coded using the PIWIS system by your dealer.

I've also attached the install notes for Porsche that were provided to me by maxcount.de - I just received this yesterday. Note that there are two different DIP switch settings for Porsche, depending on whether you have a PCM or CDR23/24 head unit. It also mentions whether the Gateway 500 should be up or down stream from the head unit.

Rick

rickhuizinga · 01-18-2007, 09:51 PM

After reading the install notes a second time, it sounds like the 987/997 need the Gateway installed downstream of the head unit, whereas the Cayenne needs it installed upstream. Based on your description, it sounds like your Gateway 500 is installed downstream of the AMP and upstream from the head unit which differs from the requirements in these install notes. You may want to change this and give it a try again.

Rick

laphil · 01-19-2007, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rickhuizinga

After reading the install notes a second time, it sounds like the 987/997 need the Gateway installed downstream of the head unit, whereas the Cayenne needs it installed upstream. Based on your description, it sounds like your Gateway 500 is installed downstream of the AMP and upstream from the head unit which differs from the requirements in these install notes. You may want to change this and give it a try again.

Rick

We tied both downstream and upstream and definitely checked the direction. I didn't get the insert that shows two dip settings. This is new! I'll take it in today and report results

Thanks

z12358 · 01-19-2007, 06:56 AM

I'm with SD987. I was seriously considering this gizmo but all this complexity and $$ just to plug in a simple player is starting to border on the bizarre. Porsche could have just provided an AUX IN socket on the face plate and be done with it. Sheesh.

Z.

super66 · 01-19-2007, 08:17 AM

just something I find funny is how we all can't believe Porsche didn't make accomodations to hook up the iPod. I for one have been really mad about it but the reality is that when I went shopping for cars, the only car on the short list that had one was the new IS 350 and it is located in the glove box I think??.....none for the infiniti, BMW(same glove box option?) I think had it as an option on one of the models.

Now most recently I had a friend purchase a Toyota Matrix, 07 and it had no iPod connection, I was floored, I mean this car is marketed to that technology generation and they still missed the mark. Unreal. Thumbs down to all automakers who haven't stepped up......

laphil · 01-19-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by laphil

We tied both downstream and upstream and definitely checked the direction. I didn't get the insert that shows two dip settings. This is new! I'll take it in today and report results

Thanks

RESULTS: The unit is going back. We've set the dips properly. We've verified the fiber direction and locations in the loop (with Dension on the phone.) The distributor upgraded the firmware. I give up! It may be a faulty unit... I haven't ruled that out. I will say this: The folks at Haas Entertainment in Los Angeles (Culver City) are top notch, very professional, and there's a reason why BH Porsche and Pacific Porsche recommend them. They really stand behind their work.

rickhuizinga · 01-19-2007, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by laphil

RESULTS: The unit is going back. We've set the dips properly. We've verified the fiber direction and locations in the loop (with Dension on the phone.) The distributor upgraded the firmware. I give up! It may be a faulty unit... I haven't ruled that out. I will say this: The folks at Haas Entertainment in Los Angeles (Culver City) are top notch, very professional, and there's a reason why BH Porsche and Pacific Porsche recommend them. They really stand behind their work.

That's too bad - I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. My experience was much different - the only installation issue was due to me not finding the correct +12V to connect to. Other than that, it worked right out of the box.

Out of curiousity, do you have the CDR24 or PCM head unit?

Also, do you know if your car had the Yazaki or Tyco/AMP optical fiber connectors?

laphil · 01-19-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rickhuizinga

That's too bad - I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. My experience was much different - the only installation issue was due to me not finding the correct +12V to connect to. Other than that, it worked right out of the box.

Out of curiousity, do you have the CDR24 or PCM head unit?

Also, do you know if your car had the Yazaki or Tyco/AMP optical fiber connectors?

I take it back... we're hanging tight. The folks from Bumperplugs are really helpful, and they've put me in touch with some Dension folks. My installer doesn't want to give up just yet. I have a CDR24, BOSE, no CDC; not sure about the fiber type.
The saga continues.

ukchris · 02-03-2007, 02:21 PM

Here's my contribution. I reinstalled from scratch today and it took less than fifteen minutes, I took pictures and compiled them in to a PDF, hopefully this will help reassure people that this thing can be installed easily without any great technical know-how.

Download the PDF here: http://www.radarrack.com/boxster.html

Chris.

NOTE - If you do not already have a CD Changer the system must be updated with a PST2

ukchris · 02-03-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by laphil

I take it back... we're hanging tight. The folks from Bumperplugs are really helpful, and they've put me in touch with some Dension folks. My installer doesn't want to give up just yet. I have a CDR24, BOSE, no CDC; not sure about the fiber type.
The saga continues.

Phil - have you had the MOST configuration updated to tell it there's a CD changer?