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Old 12-25-2006, 08:06 PM   #1
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If you just stick with Z2 you should be fine. That is their bread and butter. They do have other stuff if you need more than just a good polish./
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If you just stick with Z2 you should be fine. That is their bread and butter. They do have other stuff if you need more than just a good polish./
http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Z-2
It says to use their Z-2 with - ZFX Flash Cure Accelerator

Is it really necassary?
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Old 12-25-2006, 08:24 PM   #3
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I agree with Adam. I bought their starter kit with all the Z's they could think of to confuse you with, and Z2 is the one you want. I do believe that you should follow their program; wash with Dawn and clay the surface before you apply the Z2. You can get the clay anywhere, so no need to buy theirs. They recommend the Z5 for taking out swirls, and it may help, but after a lot of elbow grease, I still have swirls.

They will also recommend ZFX, which appears to simply make the Z2 dry faster. They charge something like $20 for about 27 drops. I found if you put a coat on and wait a few hours, it drys just fine. Also, if you use the ZFX you have to mix it and use whatever you mix. Mix too much and you have expensive garbage.
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will i still need to clay the car if it was clayed, waxed, polished a month ago?
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will i still need to clay the car if it was clayed, waxed, polished a month ago?
The purpose of claying the car is to ensure that all wax/polish/smog pollutants/dirt/anything else is picked up off the car,so you do a clean detail job.
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well claying is not really picking up things, its actually fine sanding of the particles that are not part of the cars paint/clear as explained on autopia site
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Old 12-26-2006, 05:48 AM   #7
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claying is something people don't do enough of. Particularly with ver soft German paints. Some go right to the polish route when a good once over with clay will do.
During the life of its paint you should polish and de-swirl as little as possible.
(Which means not touching the paint when its dry and limiting your washes)
There are different grades of clay. Some very soft for monthly use and some harder grades for stripping everything down to prepare for de-swirling and polishing.
Personally I think its very bad practice not to clay before doing any type of rubbing on the paint surface. Washing alone often does not dislodge the sediments blown onto the car from the road. Once you press against the paint with a wax applicator those sediments break loose and voila--sand paper.
the most important thing to do when claying is to really flood the panel with a very slick lubricant or suds. And keep a smal soapy bucket or tray to rub the debris off the clay before you fold it for the next panel. You can get Clay Magic Blue for $10 at most online detailing sites like openroadmotoring.com or detailcity.com I often see at Pepboys as well. Sonus makes the softest clay (green) I've tried intended for frequent use.
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