02-21-2025, 09:42 AM
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The reason LN used a Spiralock instead of a snap ring has to do with the original wire ring used in the tube; the Spiralock conforms to the grove machined into the tube better than a flat snap ring would, giving you a superior holding power.
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02-21-2025, 09:58 AM
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I must comment about the quality of LN's products. Beautifully machined, they are almost works of art, worthy of a place on the mantel. Here's an exploded view of the installation tool and the bearing as it's installed in the shaft:
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02-21-2025, 10:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFP in PA
The reason LN used a Spiralock instead of a snap ring has to do with the original wire ring used in the tube; the Spiralock conforms to the grove machined into the tube better than a flat snap ring would, giving you a superior holding power.
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Spiralock! Many thanks, JFP. I've been searching for the official designation. Thanks to you, I found a company with a trick name for theirs, Spirolox, and they have an installation how-to:
https://blog.diamondracing.net/how-to-install-spirolox
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02-21-2025, 05:51 PM
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I managed to get the Spiralock installed, with the help of a small flat-blade screwdriver. I think it's fully in the groove, but I didn't have sense enough to measure the width of the lock before I put it in. Consequently, I can't be sure how much is actually in the groove, which is only a millimeter or so deep. A couple millimeters of the shim can be seen behind the lock. It seems secure. I can't easily pop it out of the groove with the screwdriver. I think it's okay. In fact, I'm almost sure it might be.
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02-21-2025, 06:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFP in PA
The reason LN used a Spiralock instead of a snap ring has to do with the original wire ring used in the tube; the Spiralock conforms to the grove machined into the tube better than a flat snap ring would, giving you a superior holding power.
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Isn't the Spiralock flat too?
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02-21-2025, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolfGal
I managed to get the Spiralock installed, with the help of a small flat-blade screwdriver. I think it's fully in the groove, but I didn't have sense enough to measure the width of the lock before I put it in. Consequently, I can't be sure how much is actually in the groove, which is only a millimeter or so deep. A couple millimeters of the shim can be seen behind the lock. It seems secure. I can't easily pop it out of the groove with the screwdriver. I think it's okay. In fact, I'm almost sure it might be.
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Looks great! That thing ain't going nowhere!
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02-21-2025, 07:51 PM
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Seated, the bearing was less than a millimeter in from the groove, about the thickness of the shim. Which I figured was the objective. But a little voice is whispering, "What if the bearing isn't fully seated, and there wasn't enough clearance for the lock to fully engage in the groove?" I hate that voice. The only way to shut it up is with experience, but this is the only IMS bearing I'm likely to install. At least, I hope it's the only one.
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02-21-2025, 10:28 PM
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By the way, not to stir the pot again, but Jake Raby refers to the Solution's bearing as a "bushing" here, at 18:12:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ87UcYkT7A&t=892s
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Isn't the Spiralock flat too?
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Yes, but because of its spiral sectional design, it can better conform the bottom of this grove, which is slightly curved, much like a "U" to accept a round wire. A snap ring would not fully seat in this grove.
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Yesterday, 04:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFP in PA
Yes, but because of its spiral sectional design, it can better conform the bottom of this grove, which is slightly curved, much like a "U" to accept a round wire. A snap ring would not fully seat in this grove.
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Got it. thanks.
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Yesterday, 06:27 PM
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I examined the Spiro-loc (which is how the manual spells it) with a magnifying glass and was satisfied it's in the groove, baby. So I proceeded to install the flange, taking great care to insert it evenly so as not to pinch its triple seal or disturb the stud's o-ring. I'm ready to torque the flange bolts and center stud nut, but I encountered an unforeseen problem. Seems my 7/16" box end won't fit into the flange's notch and allow me to tighten the nut (while holding the stud with a screwdriver) enough to start torquing it. No room to get it on the nut. I'm stymied. The only solution is to find a wrench that's more svelte than the one I have. Don't ya just love those unexpected work stoppages?
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Yesterday, 07:16 PM
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Been looking at wrenches on Amazon. Most of them look like mine. I added "thin-wall" to the search and it came up with this set:
https://www.amazon.com/HORUSDY-11-Piece-Wrench-Combination-Organizer/dp/B0C9W2C34M/
More cheap Chinese tools, but I figure for what they cost, if the set's 7/16" box end works on that one nut, I will consider it money well spent; otherwise, I'm out only fourteen bucks. To my eye, these 12-pt box ends do look perhaps a millimeter thinner than on the ones I have. They'll be here tomorrow and then we'll see.
Why, you may be asking, does LN use both metric and SAE? That's a good question. The oil-line fittings are metric, but the Solution Supplemental kit provided a 7/16" deep socket specifically for that one nut, which came in the bearing kit for the stud. Wish they had included a 7/16" box end that I could get on that nut.
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Today, 04:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LoneWolfGal
Been looking at wrenches on Amazon. Most of them look like mine. I added "thin-wall" to the search and it came up with this set:
https://www.amazon.com/HORUSDY-11-Piece-Wrench-Combination-Organizer/dp/B0C9W2C34M/
More cheap Chinese tools, but I figure for what they cost, if the set's 7/16" box end works on that one nut, I will consider it money well spent; otherwise, I'm out only fourteen bucks. To my eye, these 12-pt box ends do look perhaps a millimeter thinner than on the ones I have. They'll be here tomorrow and then we'll see.
Why, you may be asking, does LN use both metric and SAE? That's a good question. The oil-line fittings are metric, but the Solution Supplemental kit provided a 7/16" deep socket specifically for that one nut, which came in the bearing kit for the stud. Wish they had included a 7/16" box end that I could get on that nut.
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Perhaps you'd be better off with one of these pass-through sockets:
https://www.harborfreight.com/sae-and-metric-pass-thru-socket-set-21-piece-62305.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=21901739207&campaignid=21901739207&utm_content=171677809102&adsetid=171677809102&product=62305&store=496&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAq-u9BhCjARIsANLj-s2nkJNBm1KzUzJU4wwXF8mwDPMCKJ1H48bAjB74_eW5FNLna8e AnpgaAi3_EALw_wcB
Your problem seems to be more of a depth issue than a clearence issue. These are sockets that are open all the way through so you can use a screwdriver to hold the bolt. At the same time, like every other socket, they can reach in and tighten the nut.
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Today, 04:26 AM
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You may want to review the Jake Raby procedure on YouTube that you cited as what you are experiencing is shown around 20:54 of the video.
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Today, 05:25 AM
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Quote:
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You may want to review the Jake Raby procedure on YouTube that you cited as what you are experiencing is shown around 20:54 of the video.
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I saw that too, unfortunately the video kind of speeds past that. Shows him using a socket and a screwdriver and then cuts away to him using a torque wrench.
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