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Old 05-24-2021, 09:07 AM   #1
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Jasper, it seems that the transmission oil that you saw it came when the shaft was pulled from the gearbox, actually does not look bad at all! You want to clean it properly, install an new oil seal and push back the axle into the gearbox when replacing the damaged suspension parts.

Again after you receive the the insurance decision, you will want to remove the broken (and bent) suspensions pieces, would not be surprised if you can get it on the road for not too much money.

Can you still decline the insurance (repair/write off) and fix it by yourself? This way the car will have a clean title..

PS: Why don't you get the car on jack stands, and take several pictures of the damaged suspension components..?

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Old 05-24-2021, 10:09 AM   #2
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From the drawing it looks like there's a C-clip that hold the flanged shaft (item 15) into either item 5 (differential pinions) or item 1 ( differential housing) so to me it looks like the only way the flanged shaft came out is if something broke off when it was pulled out.

Unfortunately, my agent said as soon as I told him to go forward then it can't be undone. I was thinking about 10k for a shop to repair and he said my insurance would go 2-300 a year for the first year then start going down. So that's why I said go ahead and start the claim.

I bought the Quickjack and was delivered yesterday but I didn't open the boxes cause if it ended up being salvaged, a $1,000 jack was too expensive to change the oil on my later model every day driver.

I have it on a flor jack now, a jack wouldn't fit under the rear so I used the cars jack to lift the front enough so the floor jack would fit under the rear.

Here's a link to more photos since I'm having such a hard time uploading them here.
Scroll to the end is where the damage photos are.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Atil9WC21-BZ3zcz-qUt01dIh_gB?e=A7hRru

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Jasper, it seems that the transmission oil that you saw it came when the shaft was pulled from the gearbox, actually does not look bad at all! You want to clean it properly, install an new oil seal and push back the axle into the gearbox when replacing the damaged suspension parts.

Again after you receive the the insurance decision, you will want to remove the broken (and bent) suspensions pieces, would not be surprised if you can get it on the road for not too much money.

Can you still decline the insurance (repair/write off) and fix it by yourself? This way the car will have a clean title..

PS: Why don't you get the car on jack stands, and take several pictures of the damaged suspension components..?
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Old 05-24-2021, 11:48 AM   #3
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[QUOTE=Jasper7821;636029]From the drawing it looks like there's a C-clip that hold the flanged shaft (item 15) into either item 5 (differential pinions) or item 1 ( differential housing) so to me it looks like the only way the flanged shaft came out is if something broke off when it was pulled out.

The circlip will snap off when you remove the shaft, simply reposition the clip and push the shaft back into the gearbox.. (yes, that simple..) Just clean the shaft properly and install a new oil seal..

Once you get the pictures for the broken/bent parts we can help you with a more educated guideline, take one step at the time, (so far) I don't see it as a deal breaker..
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Old 05-24-2021, 12:15 PM   #4
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It would be awesome if that's all it is, I not seeing it. what the C clip rest against. If the slot for it is on the outer side of the splines on the flanged shaft I ca see how maybe the flanges shaft is just pushed into the transmission supported by (#13) radial shaft seal. I don't see what the C lip is used for if it sits on the outside of the splines.
If it sits on the inside of the splines, then wouldn't it rest up against the (#5) thrust washer of the (#11) differential pinion and if so, how would the clip stay closed until it made it past the pinion.
And if the clip did come off/break inside the transmission, how would I remove it.


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From the drawing it looks like there's a C-clip that hold the flanged shaft (item 15) into either item 5 (differential pinions) or item 1 ( differential housing) so to me it looks like the only way the flanged shaft came out is if something broke off when it was pulled out.

The circlip will snap off when you remove the shaft, simply reposition the clip and push the shaft back into the gearbox.. (yes, that simple..) Just clean the shaft properly and install a new oil seal..

Once you get the pictures for the broken/bent parts we can help you with a more educated guideline, take one step at the time, (so far) I don't see it as a deal breaker..

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Old 05-24-2021, 12:22 PM   #5
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[QUOTE=Jasper7821;636037]It would be awesome if that's all it is, I not seeing it. what the C clip rest against. If the slot for it is on the outer side of the splines on the flanged shaft I ca see how maybe the flanges shaft is just pushed into the transmission supported by (#13) radial shaft seal. I don't see what the C lip is used for if it sits on the outside of the splines.
If it sits on the inside of the splines, then wouldn't it rest up against the (#5) thrust washer of the (#11) differential pinion and if so, how would the clip stay closed until it made it past the pinion.
And if the clip did come off/break inside the transmission, how would I remove it.


The circlip works as a spring, once you get it on it's grove (on part #15) just push it into position and hit it with a brass hammer and will click into place..
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Old 05-24-2021, 12:47 PM   #6
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Thank You,
I'll try and remove the flanged shaft and hopefully the clip is still there and not in the transmission.

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It would be awesome if that's all it is, I not seeing it. what the C clip rest against. If the slot for it is on the outer side of the splines on the flanged shaft I ca see how maybe the flanges shaft is just pushed into the transmission supported by (#13) radial shaft seal. I don't see what the C lip is used for if it sits on the outside of the splines.
If it sits on the inside of the splines, then wouldn't it rest up against the (#5) thrust washer of the (#11) differential pinion and if so, how would the clip stay closed until it made it past the pinion.
And if the clip did come off/break inside the transmission, how would I remove it.




The circlip works as a spring, once you get it on it's grove (on part #15) just push it into position and hit it with a brass hammer and will click into place..
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Old 05-24-2021, 08:14 PM   #7
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Is this the clip?

https://youtu.be/NZN2z9gzp6U


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It would be awesome if that's all it is, I not seeing it. what the C clip rest against. If the slot for it is on the outer side of the splines on the flanged shaft I ca see how maybe the flanges shaft is just pushed into the transmission supported by (#13) radial shaft seal. I don't see what the C lip is used for if it sits on the outside of the splines.
If it sits on the inside of the splines, then wouldn't it rest up against the (#5) thrust washer of the (#11) differential pinion and if so, how would the clip stay closed until it made it past the pinion.
And if the clip did come off/break inside the transmission, how would I remove it.




The circlip works as a spring, once you get it on it's grove (on part #15) just push it into position and hit it with a brass hammer and will click into place..
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Old 05-25-2021, 09:06 AM   #8
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[QUOTE=Jasper7821;636065]Is this the clip?

https://youtu.be/NZN2z9gzp6U


No, that video is for the driveshaft assembly BTW, I would forget about the shaft as it should be perfectly fine..

The circlip I am talking about is #7) P/N 012 409 413 Circlip goes on the grove of #15) P/N 012 4009 343 Flange Shaft where the splines engage on to the differential hosing

On the post #10, in the picture you provided, the shaft has slipped out of the gearbox (after wacking the suspension) and you just have to reinsert the shaft fully into position and tap it so the circlip engages again into the #1) 012 409 121 Differential Housing.

However, you want to clean the surface of the shaft (where it rides on the oil seal) BTW, this is the perfect time to replace the oil seal #13 sorry but no P/N on your parts diagram for #13..

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