2005 987S 20,000 mile report

[Pilot2519j]

Bummer for you but I think driving style is the likely culprit. I had a 1988 Audi 90 Quattro last me over 120, 000 miles on a original clutch with lots of miles in congested highways, Long Island distressway & Manhattan. The car was far from perfect since it ate 3 generators, no clue why? While I don't baby the car I not one to drop the clutch at 4000 or 5000 rpms either. I started driving sticks in 68 and I always been careful with brakes & clutch. I never race corner to corner. When I see traffic slowdown I downshift rather than stump on the brakes. Driving with prudence does not mean I don't like driving the car sometimes at high speeds and with spirited cornering which I do when road conditions & traffic allow. I drive my car everyday and I have already put 30,000 miles on my 2003S, brakes are fine and the clutch at times is notchy going into second( it must be a German thing since that would happen in my last car 2001 S-4) but that is a few times and far between. I love the car and it seems to be durable. Just examine your driving characteristics and maybe that will change your maintance issues. Just and opinion not an attack to a fellow Group member. Good luck.

[Brucelee]

This is fascinating and points out how these things are taken in the Porsche world.

So, I go out an buy a $55K plus SPORTS CAR that is aimed at the performance driver. This company stress thees RACING HERITAGE of the marque and trades on that to charge much for the car and its service/repair. After all, it is a PORSCHE!

When a driver comes in with a NEW car that has a BAD trans, I blame him for hitting the rev limiter a few times. Then when the trans goes again and he has NOT hit the limited since, I blame HIM again!

OK, what is wrong with this picture?

OK, now all you guys who apologize for the spotty reputation of the Box on reliability, come and dump and on me.

C'mon guys, Porshce needs to hear from us/you.

Oh sorry, I just saw the last post, it is the DRIVING STYLE that does it.

BTW-If this guy is dumping the clutch at 5K RPM, why is his clutch still intact?

[Pilot2519j]

Oh sorry, I just saw the last post, it is the DRIVING STYLE that does it.

BTW-If this guy is dumping the clutch at 5K RPM, why is his clutch still intact?[/QUOTE]

I think you are having a bad day. How can anyone know what caused these failures as alluded by the writer? You have to be kidding me. All types of machines have failures but along that line you have to assess driver input. Porsche should be accountable and remedy the flaws if any exists in the Group member's car. The clutch item which you quote was just an example of someone abusing the car not meant to infer that the fellow group member was a culprit but we all seen plenty of people that do indeed subject the clutch like that and then ask Gee what happened? Suggestion take two aspirins and calm down it was not meant to be personal.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Pilot2519j

Oh sorry, I just saw the last post, it is the DRIVING STYLE that does it.

BTW-If this guy is dumping the clutch at 5K RPM, why is his clutch still intact?

I think you are having a bad day. How can anyone know what caused these failures as alluded by the writer? You have to be kidding me. All types of machines have failures but along that line you have to assess driver input. Porsche should be accountable and remedy the flaws if any exists in the Group member's car. The clutch item which you quote was just an example of someone abusing the car not meant to infer that the fellow group member was a culprit but we all seen plenty of people that do indeed subject the clutch like that and then ask Gee what happened? Suggestion take two aspirins and calm down it was not meant to be personal. [/QUOTE]

I didn't take it PERSONALLY but apparently the So CAL Porsche Customer Service guy did!

BTW- that guy has a rep within the dealer service depts. To say he is not loved is an understatement.

[eslai]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

BTW- that guy has a rep within the dealer service depts. To say he is not loved is an understatement.

I complained about him to Customer Commitment, who forwarded it up the chain. I also will be sending a letter to Doug Battie and Scott Codute personally, which seem to be the next two bosses up from him in his chain of command. I've also witnessed personally how abusive he is to the service reps and am wholly unimpressed.

Now, the talk about "sell your car" is all interesting to me too. My problem is that I'm hooked--if I sold the car, I'd want to turn around and buy a 2007 987S. Sad eh?

I'd probably lose about $12,000 in that deal, even with any compensation that Porsche may see fit to throw my way.

Conundrum. My service guy has been saying that I should keep the car and that the dealership would take care of me, but that sounds like a fool's game.

Advice? There is really nothing else out on the market for a daily driver within my price range that impresses me.

[SD987]

Welcome back Eslai, sorry to hear about your transmission woes.

As far as the brakes go, when I did 20k on the 987 base they told me that a front brake job wouldn't be that far off in my future.

Not to state the obvious, but I don't think we should be surprised by a decrease in the service life of new pads and rotors from what has historically been that of the 986. The S brakes are exactly the same between the 986 and 987 and only the rears are different in the base but the 987s are, of course, more powerful and have an 18% increase in brake assist.

That's a great price you got. For those in the San Diego area I can email the 15% brake service coupon and 10% scheduled maintenance coupons. I've had no complaints with Pioneer's service department and their pricing seems better than most that I've compared to in SoCal, certainly better than Hoehn, which is the only other local alternative.