07-28-2020, 08:22 AM
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Who's askin'?
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Originally Posted by steved0x
When I changed out the oil on my Toyota FJ Cruiser diffs and transfer case, a couple of the Toyota washers were like this (and a couple weren't...) I thought it was odd that they all weren't the same, but with the rolled edge you could really see and feel it crush down when you tightened it.
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yeah, probably like most items, they source from the cheapest mfr with the same spec.
I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a crush-washer like that though. (I've never owned a toyota, believe it or not! I might need to rectify that soon!)
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07-28-2020, 10:35 AM
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Maytag,
Look at the washer on a spark plug.
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07-28-2020, 11:19 AM
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Who's askin'?
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Originally Posted by blue62
Maytag,
Look at the washer on a spark plug. 
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Yeah, but that's an entirely different situation. And, while I get that it IS, I've certainly never referred to that as a crush washer. ;-)
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07-28-2020, 04:32 PM
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Not related to this reuse-not-to-reuse debate, but maybe helpful for the OP: I struggled a lot with the oil lines on my motorcycle where I fitted a pressure gauge with banjos. I tried copper and aluminum flat washers, but they all leaked, because the pressure is high at those lines and the thread at the banjo bolt didn`t withstand high torque. So I found these aluminum crush washers with a rubber insert and they worked perfectly. It creates a very good seal even when tightened to a low torque. Newer Japanese bikes use it for brake lines. For example:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Oil-Drain-Plug-Metal-Rubber-MR21-Crush-Seal-Washer-Set-of-10-for-Toyota-Lexus/273351435154?hash=item3fa503e392:g:LmkAAOSwSixbRtm 6
Definitely not reusable.
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07-31-2020, 03:05 PM
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Thanks for all the replies.
So I tested my torque wrench and it is between 19.2 NM and 20.1 NM when set at 19 NM. Not sure if this would damage the plug.
I have read on some other forums that the aluminum washer that comes with them may be too hard and it's better to use a genuine Porsche washer!
Anyway..it's still dripping so I guess I have to swap it out and use a new washer or a new plug!
Last edited by njbray; 07-31-2020 at 03:45 PM.
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07-31-2020, 05:52 PM
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Have you tried torquing just slightly more?
That worked just fine the one time I under did it during an oil change.
Drain plugs---regardless of where sourced---have to be cranked quite a bit to strip them. In my experience anyway. (ie I've never stripped one.)
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07-31-2020, 07:48 PM
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So somebody double check me on this. I believe the torque spec is in ftlb not nm? And 19 nm would only be +/-14 ftlbs? It isn't tight enough by +/- 5 lbs? Thus causing the leak?
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Originally Posted by njbray
Thanks for all the replies.
So I tested my torque wrench and it is between 19.2 NM and 20.1 NM when set at 19 NM. Not sure if this would damage the plug.
I have read on some other forums that the aluminum washer that comes with them may be too hard and it's better to use a genuine Porsche washer!
Anyway..it's still dripping so I guess I have to swap it out and use a new washer or a new plug!
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07-31-2020, 07:52 PM
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A Porsche Guy
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It is 50Nm (37 ft-lb) for the factory plug. For the magnetic plug it is 19 ft-lb and 26Nm rounded up NJBray. You either mistyped or we just found where your mistake is.
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07-31-2020, 08:25 PM
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If you over torque this can happen:
And it will leak.
I don't know my own strength sometimes.
Seems like I did over a 1000 oil changes on my first Boxster, and this plug had been torqued a number of times.
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08-02-2020, 07:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by njbray
Thanks for all the replies.
So I tested my torque wrench and it is between 19.2 NM and 20.1 NM when set at 19 NM. Not sure if this would damage the plug.
I have read on some other forums that the aluminum washer that comes with them may be too hard and it's better to use a genuine Porsche washer!
Anyway..it's still dripping so I guess I have to swap it out and use a new washer or a new plug!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1PorscheBoxster986
It is 50Nm (37 ft-lb) for the factory plug. For the magnetic plug it is 19 ft-lb and 26Nm rounded up NJBray. You either mistyped or we just found where your mistake is.
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I don't think these posts should get lost in the fray. After re-reading this thread I change my recommendation. Their plug may not be broken like mine was. Unless the OP is 100% sure they got it right the first time, maybe they can go back underneath and confirm the proper torque value and units were used. Let us know how it goes.
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