01-18-2019, 05:21 PM
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What’s wrong with this picture?
Okay, for 15 points, can you spot the problem?
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01-18-2019, 05:32 PM
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Is there a nut on that IMS center bolt? Wait... is there a bolt?
Edit: And it came from one of those silly cars that mounts the engine backwards (noticed tubing and harness).
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01-18-2019, 05:35 PM
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Haha, clever boy!
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Crashed: 2010 987.2 pdk in speed yellow!
Sold to a cool racer chick: 2004 986 S
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01-18-2019, 05:40 PM
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Whatever it is, it also took the Oil Cooler!
It is not going to look pretty inside that motor.
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01-18-2019, 05:46 PM
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Look way down that tube and you will find the missing part!
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James now has: 2008 987S 6 speed
Crashed: 2010 987.2 pdk in speed yellow!
Sold to a cool racer chick: 2004 986 S
YouTube channel: the PORSCHE as seen by NewArt
www.youtube.com/channel/UCohdrH2xHTklM1thxk0KKOQ?
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01-18-2019, 05:47 PM
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Is that a dual row IMSB and it still failed? Maybe your cylinders won't be scuffed if that is what was making the knock.
Last edited by PaulE; 01-18-2019 at 05:52 PM.
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01-18-2019, 05:49 PM
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i can spot the problem - you haven't moved your new coffee table into the living room yet.
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01-18-2019, 06:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulE
Is that a dual row IMSB and it still failed? Maybe your cylinders won't be scuffed if that is what was making the knock.
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No, it’s a single row.
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Crashed: 2010 987.2 pdk in speed yellow!
Sold to a cool racer chick: 2004 986 S
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01-18-2019, 06:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Radium King
i can spot the problem - you haven't moved your new coffee table into the living room yet.
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We’ll see. There’s always room for optimism.
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James now has: 2008 987S 6 speed
Crashed: 2010 987.2 pdk in speed yellow!
Sold to a cool racer chick: 2004 986 S
YouTube channel: the PORSCHE as seen by NewArt
www.youtube.com/channel/UCohdrH2xHTklM1thxk0KKOQ?
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01-18-2019, 09:40 PM
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Your engine fell out of your car.
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01-19-2019, 05:59 AM
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I m sorry to see that.
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01-19-2019, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NewArt
No, it’s a single row.
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Well FWIW my IMSB looked similar. The only collateral damage to the engine was a timing chain paddle on the back of the engine, part of the oil pump and the IMS itself. The crank, rods, cylinders heads, etc were all good and reusable. I hope you are in the same boat. And my block is finally in transit back to my shop from LN with 3.6 Nickies installed..
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01-19-2019, 05:58 PM
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Thank you Paul for adding a sparkle into this dreary prospect!
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James now has: 2008 987S 6 speed
Crashed: 2010 987.2 pdk in speed yellow!
Sold to a cool racer chick: 2004 986 S
YouTube channel: the PORSCHE as seen by NewArt
www.youtube.com/channel/UCohdrH2xHTklM1thxk0KKOQ?
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01-19-2019, 06:49 PM
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So the engine was running, but was knocking... Were the ball bearings still in the race? What does the oil filter look like? You may have dodged a bullet.
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01-19-2019, 07:06 PM
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Yes, it’s odd that it ran. I only have the word of the guy who sold it. Not a lot of confidence. The bearing was completely destroyed. No race left. You can see the bolt at the wrong end of the tube. The oil filter had minimal debris in the pleats. I’m hoping to start the teardown tomorrow if I can get my garage above zero!
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Crashed: 2010 987.2 pdk in speed yellow!
Sold to a cool racer chick: 2004 986 S
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01-20-2019, 02:24 AM
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But....but.....but the IMS is rarely an issue per a lot of forum members on here You have quite the mess there good luck with the repair .
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01-20-2019, 07:22 AM
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Who's askin'?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc
But....but.....but the IMS is rarely an issue per a lot of forum members on here You have quite the mess there good luck with the repair .
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Well..... fwiw..... I've been a member here since March last year. In that time, lots of scares and paranoia..... but this is the first real live IMS bearing failure reported.
I'd call that relatively rare. ;-)
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01-20-2019, 09:20 AM
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This is a 3.6 Carrera engine that I picked up cheap. My Porsche mechanic friend tells me that these engines are more susceptible to imsb failures than the 3.2s. I can’t verify the veracity of this but I’m looking forward to seeing what sort of collateral damage ensued!
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Crashed: 2010 987.2 pdk in speed yellow!
Sold to a cool racer chick: 2004 986 S
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01-20-2019, 09:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maytag
Well..... fwiw..... I've been a member here since March last year. In that time, lots of scares and paranoia..... but this is the first real live IMS bearing failure reported.
I'd call that relatively rare. ;-)
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Swing by a reputable shop like Jake Raby's or JFP on this forum and look at all the cars and engines waiting for IMS related rebuilds . Every time I swing by Jake's I just shake my head at the amount of dead Porsche's he has there waiting for repair and almost all are IMS related failures .
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01-20-2019, 09:35 AM
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Which IMSB update is on your broken 3.2? Can you transfer it to the 3.6?
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Arctic Silver 2000 Boxster S - bought with a broken engine, back on the road with the engine replaced
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1987 924S 5-speed (Sold) - Blue 2000 Boxster 5 spd (Sold)
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