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dulmer 06-16-2017 03:38 AM

Why do Porsches (and the ilk) send other drivers into rages??
 
This morning I was driving into work minding my own business, when this young guy in a Ford Fiesta decides that he needs to tailgate me. I'm on a two-lane roadway that is quite congested during rush hour traffic. When I finally was able to move over to the right lane, he's waving his fist and me and yelling something (though I couldn't hear him as he didn't put his window down and neither had I). I guess I was not driving fast enough for him (this despite the fact everyone travels at a rate of about 20 over the speed limit to begin with). I find this is an all-too frequent reaction from people to drive aggressively around "nice" cars. Are they really jealous of a 20-year old, $10K car?? This only seems to occur on this one portion of my commute, where I notice many people driving very aggressively and with little regard to the people around them. Maybe I just don't want to accept that the general populace is moving in this direction in terms of driving etiquette...:eek:

Quadcammer 06-16-2017 04:17 AM

I have never noticed that in my boxster or 911 turbos.

Nine8Six 06-16-2017 04:20 AM

Boy, what happened to our little happy Canadians man. CBC News going too strong on the general population?! lolll

Tension is high these days, got to be strong to remain sane. Nothing to do with Porsche cars imo. Insanes-a-lot-out-there. You just can't avoid that crappy living flesh (apparently) so.... put on your favorite tune and pump up the volume a notch next time it happens - as in "ignore", don't let it get to you.

Try this, works every time for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f0LEoDwFO8

:D

Nine8Six 06-16-2017 04:58 AM

Few years back, the day I left Les Canadiens de Montreal hockey and all my girlfriends crying behind, that's what a "Road Rage" looked like in Canada.

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bwdz 06-16-2017 05:22 AM

I think you are overthinking it, it happens all the time no matter what you are driving as I see it regularly.

dulmer 06-16-2017 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwdz (Post 540922)
I think you are overthinking it, it happens all the time no matter what you are driving as I see it regularly.



Unfortunately, I think you are right...


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thstone 06-16-2017 07:29 AM

I'm sure that everyone has a different experience but I'm with Dulmer on this, yes it happens in my other cars, but not nearly as often as my Porsche.

Except in my Boxster race car, everyone leaves me completely alone in that car, so I guess the takeaway is to drive a race car. :)

Fintro11 06-16-2017 07:39 AM

I don't have that problem over here as there is not that much traffic. I do on occasion have people tail gate me / pass me on residential streets, keep in mind I drive 10 over the posted limit, if some one is right on my ass I let off on the gas and coast to the speed limit, if they still don't take the hint I slow to 10 under. Once they back off a bit I go back to doing 10 over.

The big problem here is jacked up trucks with hid kits and led light bars all around them. They like to turn on their rear light bars when it's night to try blind you. They really do not like Fred's projectors when they go into high ram mode...

Deserion 06-16-2017 08:14 AM

I used to get that sort of behavior from others. I think I was driving it when I got finger-wagged by someone who cut in front of me because I honked? The hell?

stephen wilson 06-16-2017 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwdz (Post 540922)
I think you are overthinking it, it happens all the time no matter what you are driving as I see it regularly.

Maybe in his case, but My wife has even noticed "car prejudice". I've had co-workers tell me that they tend to "snub" high end cars like BMW and Merc's. I just had a VW try and race my last week, that doesn't happen with either of my trucks............

Granted, I agree the general aggressive driving and ass-hattery is rampant no matter what you are driving.

JayG 06-16-2017 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 540930)
I don't have that problem over here as there is not that much traffic. I do on occasion have people tail gate me / pass me on residential streets, keep in mind I drive 10 over the posted limit, if some one is right on my ass I let off on the gas and coast to the speed limit, if they still don't take the hint I slow to 10 under. Once they back off a bit I go back to doing 10 over.

The big problem here is jacked up trucks with hid kits and led light bars all around them. They like to turn on their rear light bars when it's night to try blind you. They really do not like Fred's projectors when they go into high ram mode...

You sir are being an ass. All slowing down does is escalate the issue

If someone wants to go faster than you, just move over and let them pass.

I tend to drove a bit fast and if someone comes up on me, I move over and let them go by. I ask that others do the same when I come up on them. Unfortunately there are lots of rude and inconsiderate drivers that don't move over or worse slow down as they think that is teaching the person behind a lesson. All it is doing is showing you are an inconsiderate asshat.

I have no problem with someone driving slow or at a speed they are comfortable at. I don't expect nor want them to match my speed, especially when I am in one of my Op-cars and they are in a Prius or whatever. Drive what ever speed you want, just don't hold up people behind

All they have to do is move over and let the faster traffic pass. In many states, that is even the law.

Lets face it, a Porsche is safer at 20+ over than most cars are at the speed limit

particlewave 06-16-2017 09:45 AM

He said "right on my ass", Jay. ;)
Tailgaters suck and deserve that treatment. I do the same.
Many times, there isn't anywhere to "move over" to. If you can't pass, get off my ass. :D
The number of accidents caused by jerkoff tailgaters is staggering.

Always in a hurry? Leave sooner, then you won't be. Your being late is not my problem. :rolleyes:

DWBOX2000 06-16-2017 10:40 AM

I've had it happen more frequently in p car as well. People will yell mean stuff from sidewalk some times. I just beep and wave. I think the perception is for many is that if you drive a p car, your a pompous jerk. Though if it's set up as a track car, people tend to think you are not trying to prove anything but just want a real sports car. People are angry these days, better to just smile and proceed forward.

Fintro11 06-16-2017 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 540941)
You sir are being an ass. All slowing down does is escalate the issue

If someone wants to go faster than you, just move over and let them pass.

I tend to drove a bit fast and if someone comes up on me, I move over and let them go by. I ask that others do the same when I come up on them. Unfortunately there are lots of rude and inconsiderate drivers that don't move over or worse slow down as they think that is teaching the person behind a lesson. All it is doing is showing you are an inconsiderate asshat.

I have no problem with someone driving slow or at a speed they are comfortable at. I don't expect nor want them to match my speed, especially when I am in one of my Op-cars and they are in a Prius or whatever. Drive what ever speed you want, just don't hold up people behind

All they have to do is move over and let the faster traffic pass. In many states, that is even the law.

Lets face it, a Porsche is safer at 20+ over than most cars are at the speed limit

By all means I will be a miserable ass to people that on a double lane residential road , they are on your ass driving side to side.
I do however move over if you come up on me fast and not tail gate me I'll have no problem pulling over to the side of the road to let you pass. Same thing for when I am in a new area or looking for an address I will pull over and let people pass.

I live right by my kids school and you know who the worst offenders are? Mothers dropping off their kids at school. Try obey they school zone limit and they are on your ass or pass you in the oncoming lane.

Any four lane road I always keep in the right lane except for passing people.

Nine8Six 06-16-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 540946)
Any four lane road I always keep in the right lane except for passing people.

Renegade pickup trucks, criminal moms, sounds like south Indonesia

Problem with "resisting" is you just never know what's coming your way. Could be the guy who is trying to get his wife to maternity, or Ms Seagul White below. In both cases my best advice to you is accel until there is a safe pass or get the f out of their way. Put on the meditation music for safe recovery.

You goin' to brake 10 less on this guy? Got bad news for you, won't work lolll

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Anker 06-16-2017 12:19 PM

I have been teaching my 18 year old grand son to drive. He works really hard to drive at the speed limit and it is annoying to see how many motorists get right up on his rear bumper. I tell him not to pay any attention to the jerks, but I can tell that it still bothers and distracts him.

JayG 06-16-2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 540946)
By all means I will be a miserable ass to people that on a double lane residential road , they are on your ass driving side to side.
I do however move over if you come up on me fast and not tail gate me I'll have no problem pulling over to the side of the road to let you pass. Same thing for when I am in a new area or looking for an address I will pull over and let people pass.

I live right by my kids school and you know who the worst offenders are? Mothers dropping off their kids at school. Try obey they school zone limit and they are on your ass or pass you in the oncoming lane.

Any four lane road I always keep in the right lane except for passing people.

I should have read it better.

Residential street, they are worse than an ass, not you

Yea, Soccer Moms are the worst

For tailgaters, brake light check them a few times, they generally will drop back

san rensho 06-16-2017 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 540917)
Few years back, the day I left Les Canadiens de Montreal hockey and all my girlfriends crying behind, that's what a "Road Rage" looked like in Canada.

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That video is absolutely hilarious. It reminds me of when I lived in Wisconsin. Canadians, Minnesota ins and Wisconsinites are all cut from the same cloth. Well mannered to a fault.

san rensho 06-16-2017 12:46 PM

Oh and by the way, to the original poster. It's very easy to not deal with road rage ragers, just go faster than they do, that's what I do.

Nine8Six 06-16-2017 12:52 PM

Stay alive every one! No Road Rage (Ms Seagul's got some crazy fingernails)

Just wanted to add.... that ... it wouldn't be a 1st time for me to see a guy in a Porsche... who could have done better with a Public Transport Card.

Oh and, Porsche family secret: +50% of the time when ppl tailgate you, its because they want to race with you ;) no harm

Fintro11 06-16-2017 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayG (Post 540962)
I should have read it better.

Residential street, they are worse than an ass, not you

Yea, Soccer Moms are the worst

For tailgaters, brake light check them a few times, they generally will drop back

I use the rear fog light it works well

DaveNW 06-16-2017 07:12 PM

Back in the 70's I was following a car with a bumper sticker that said, "Honk if you love Jesus." They were very popular bumper stickers at the time, and I saw them everywhere. Thinking it was a fitting thing to do, I lightly tooted my horn with a couple of quick "Beep beep"s.

The other driver rolled down his window, flipped me off, and sped away. Seriously.

Dave

Fintro11 06-16-2017 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveNW (Post 540993)
Back in the 70's I was following a car with a bumper sticker that said, "Honk if you love Jesus." They were very popular bumper stickers at the time, and I saw them everywhere. Thinking it was a fitting thing to do, I lightly tooted my horn with a couple of quick "Beep beep"s.

The other driver rolled down his window, flipped me off, and sped away. Seriously.

Dave



Maybe that was their plan to find anybody who loves Jesus and flip them off:rolleyes:

dulmer 06-17-2017 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 541003)
Maybe that was their plan to find anybody who loves Jesus and flip them off:rolleyes:



LOL!


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Jamesp 06-17-2017 05:16 AM

I speed up and get out of the way.

Could be a medical emergency

Could be late for work

Could be an incompetent / dangerous driver

Most likely just a jerk driving fast "winning" the only way they can I'd rather not associate with

I've posted this before but I had a pickup truck racing up an on ramp literally pushing me over a lane while "merging" when the red and blue lights came on behind him. :D

PaulE 06-17-2017 07:54 AM

For much of the general population, seeing any Porsche in decent condition makes them think the person driving it is an entitled, spoiled jerk compensating for other inadequacies. Same can be said for BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Corvette, etc. On top of that, every car TV commercial shows whatever brand of car cruising on beautiful, empty roads or a luxury SUV effortlessly cruising through deep fresh snow. Much like the theory that Joe Camel could brainwash kids into smoking I think that car advertising leads people to make judgements about cars and the people that are driving them. Then everyone is stuck in bumper to bumper traffic and there are drivers of all kinds of cars behaving badly and making incorrect assumptions about the drivers in other cars. Sometimes it is the driver of the high end car behaving badly and sometimes it is the driver of the clunker who feels that he needs to teach someone a "lesson."

DaveNW 06-17-2017 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 541003)
Maybe that was their plan to find anybody who loves Jesus and flip them off:rolleyes:

Good point! :)

Dave

DaveNW 06-17-2017 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulE (Post 541027)
For much of the general population, seeing any Porsche in decent condition makes them think the person driving it is an entitled, spoiled jerk compensating for other inadequacies. Same can be said for BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Corvette, etc.


Uh oh. My other car is a bright red, loaded BMW... Oh, wait - my daily driver is a Ford Escape. Does that help equal things out some? ;)


Dave

Nine8Six 06-17-2017 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulE (Post 541027)
making incorrect assumptions about the drivers in other cars.

Here they portrait the luxury car owner as a sex symbol who has privileges. Most, not all, of those advertisements you see here includes a half-dressed chick e.g.sitting in the passenger seat trowing those perfect smiles to this sophisticated looking guy etc etc (60frames/sec slow motions and all). Valet service, over speeding, we've seen it all.

Can only imagine what goes in this guy's head as he struggle to drive his green color Cherry QQ 0.8L

Me think you have a good point there Paul. Ads and perception could be relaxed a tad

Nine8Six 06-17-2017 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by san rensho (Post 540966)
Oh and by the way, to the original poster. It's very easy to not deal with road rage ragers, just go faster than they do, that's what I do.

Makes perfect sense, hard to achieve when you have a slow-mo in your way though :D

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mikefocke 06-17-2017 01:18 PM

I have to laugh. I drive a Prius station wagon now and over on their forum you hear the same complaint.

In 5-6 years of P-car ownership and maybe 40k of driving I've had no memorable incidents of others being angered and I've driven them and parked them in all sorts of circumstances. Not saying it can't happen.

But then I can say the same thing about a Prius.

Are there jerks, sure are. But they are angered at the world and what I drive hasn't made a bit of difference.

bwdz 06-17-2017 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveNW (Post 540993)
Back in the 70's I was following a car with a bumper sticker that said, "Honk if you love Jesus." They were very popular bumper stickers at the time, and I saw them everywhere. Thinking it was a fitting thing to do, I lightly tooted my horn with a couple of quick "Beep beep"s.

The other driver rolled down his window, flipped me off, and sped away. Seriously.

Dave

Get a bumper sticker that says "honk if you are a moron" and see how that gets reactions.

Paul 06-17-2017 05:41 PM

I just move over as soon as possible, then move back and pace them at a distance to allow them to find the speed traps.

Alfieg23 06-18-2017 07:27 AM

Bad Drivers
 
Living in South Florida, I encounter some of the worst traffic and bad drivers in the country. I have a 50 mile daily round trip commute for work and my biggest complaint is the number of drivers who insist on tailgating and doing sudden stops right behind my bumper each time traffic comes to a halt. My strategy is to change lanes and let the tailgater tailgate someone else.

Benitom 06-18-2017 02:22 PM

I never experienced angry drivers until I started driving the Boxster. WRXs and Muscle cars tail gate or speed up past me all the time. It's quite amusing. I'm enjoying my drive too much to care.

Anker 06-18-2017 02:48 PM

Its actually quite funny to appear to accept a challenge to drag race and then let the idiot blast off all by himself.

Lew 06-18-2017 03:04 PM

When I am driving my old Nissan Pickup, vehicles stay way behind me. I guess they think maybe something will fall off and they get hit or run over what ever. In my VW Sportswagen I get tail gaters sometime. I would like to slam on my brakes and get rear ending then fall out like they do in New York and yell "Cash Settlement". As for driving the Boxster, I have problem with the idiots driving their pickup trucks. It does not matter if it's a beat up truck or brand new. It seems they want to play with the Porsche's speed. None would win. It's hard sometime to stay calm. I can say with certainty most people are in to big of a hurry. Like Pweave says, and I agree, If you in such a big hurry, you should have left sooner.

Xpit77 06-19-2017 02:58 AM

It got so bad with my wife and I that I removed the Boxster script from the trunk.It appears to be working.I have a turbo spoiler and a hardtop so the unwashed does`nt know what model it is .
But I do like to sucker them to play on an on ramp to a hwy.The best part is after you blow them off they`ll go like hell to catch up and pass.Too funny.

Shawn Stanford 06-19-2017 07:05 AM

I went to the movies yesterday in my '05 Cayenne and the closest spot was being encroached by a Ford Explorer. I'm thin enough, so I centered in the spot, opened the door and eased out. It was pretty tight; I doubt the average American would have been able to get into the Explorer without a lot of huffing and puffing, or maybe a hand full of Crisco to ease his passage.

I come out after the show and - as I expected - there's a fingertip-sized dent with a paint nick and a line of door-edge paint on my door. The guy in the Explorer obviously took exception to me correctly occupying the parking spot he'd encroached upon.

Ha ha, buddy! Joke's on you. Your Explorer was newer and the damage you just did is probably the smallest dent I've got.

cas951 06-19-2017 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Anker (Post 541184)
Its actually quite funny to appear to accept a challenge to drag race and then let the idiot blast off all by himself.

Agree with you. I just ignore them and let them be. I'd rather be behind them than in front of them and if they happen to go in the same direction and come up to some twisty roads, well his is where the fun begins.


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