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Old 09-30-2016, 04:09 PM   #1
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I want to keep my automatic transmission

I am replacing my 2.7 automatic (IMS failed) engine with a used 2.7 engine (that will have a newly installed by me LN bearing) that originally had a 5-speed transmission. I want to keep my auto transmission. Any extra parts I need? Any advice?

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Old 09-30-2016, 09:16 PM   #2
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Hopefully you have the old engine to scavenge a few things.
  • Brake boost line and connection.
  • Engine harness (combines the transmission harness).
  • Coolant hose.
  • Vacuum hose connection to the transmission (change over valve).
  • I think the intake tubing had a difference - extra junction for a resonator - but can't remember for sure, Not critical anyway.
A Pro would probably replace the bolts on the torque converter and a few others.
Starter and alternator have minor differences, but IMO not critical. Look up the part numbers. Tip (option M249 in the catalog) alternator is without the freewheel lock. Tip starter has higher output.
Here's the parts catalog if you don't already have it. http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/usa/986_USA_KATALOG.pdf

I did it about two years ago. Here's some info copied from my old thread:

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A few notes to add now that the engine is in:

I didn't realize until I had the engine installed that the brake vacuum line and intake were different between the two engines. The new engine had the single vacuum connection at the left front and a built in resonator in the intake line. The old engine had a 3 connection vacuum line with a venturi and a clamp on resonator. I wish I had noticed that before I installed the engine.
Part #21 (Venturi tube) vs the elbow # 23 in the lower picture.

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#23 (Elbow)


The rest of the vacuum tubing was brittle. Probably a good idea to plan to replace all of it. I missed one piece and of course it broke when I was installing the engine.

After I got it all in and started it up it ran like crap.
Lots of bad scenarios came to mind of what could be wrong. First guess and least scary was MAF and sure enough that fixed it and it was easy enough to do with the engine in.

Differences from the Tiptronic to 5-speed engine:

The wiring harness for the tiptronic integrates the transmission bundle with the engine wiring. There is one vacuum line that splits into a 3 way on the 5-speed that is a 4 way on the tiptronic. There is an extra junction in the cooling lines on the tiptronic that facilitate the transmission cooler. Other than that everything seemed like a direct swap.
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Old 10-01-2016, 07:39 PM   #3
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Yes, the old engine is still in the car.
Thanks for all the info!
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I successfully did the opposite - installed an engine from a salvage car with the tip into a my car with a 5-spd. Same process and fairly straight forward.

I already have another spare engine (also from a tip) that will need to be converted to work with a 5-spd when my current engine fails.
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Old 10-02-2016, 12:56 PM   #5
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Did you take the transmission out with the engine, or leave it in the car and just remove/replace the engine itself?

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