6 cylinder Boxster market

[MWS]

What would be really I interesting (and telling) would be to see sales figures from the 981 vs 718. Everything on paper says the turbo four in the 718 outperforms the natural six on the 981; be very interesting to see how people vote with money though.

As far as the 986 goes, I think we are a ways out from sought after collector status, just too many made.

Lastly, the change to a turbo four isn't as earth shattering as the loss of the air cooled 911s as all manufactures are shrinking displacement in almost all models to achieve mandated standards, not just Porsche, and not just on the Boxster.

Ok, I can't resist a tirade on "mandated standards"... These are so arbitrary they might as well mandate 1000 mi/gal. Additionally, displacement has NOTHING to do with real world mileage, two examples below:

- My Boxster is in shop, and for a loaner we have a 2.0l 4 cylinder turbo Q5, we also own a 3.2l natural 6 cylinder Q5. Ya know what? Real world mileage is about the same.

- We also have a 4.2l natural V8 S5, and when our Q5 was recently in we had a 2.0l A5. Again, real world mileage was about the same. Sure, if I wanted to watch mileage plummet to single digits (and also smile) all I need to do is mash pedal on the S5, but alternatively if I wanted to really stretch it (and be really bored) the S5 with the V8 could achieve better mileage then the little 4 cylinder due to lower revs. I've said it a million times, mileage isn't a factor of engine size, more how you drive. I'd love to see someone hyper-mile in a W12 vs a I3, and I'm sure my theory would be well borne out.

[Porsche9]

Originally Posted by MWS

- My Boxster is in shop, and for a loaner we have a 2.0l 4 cylinder turbo Q5, we also own a 3.2l natural 6 cylinder Q5. Ya know what? Real world mileage is about the same.

- We also have a 4.2l natural V8 S5, and when our Q5 was recently in we had a 2.0l A5. Again, real world mileage was about the same. Sure, if I wanted to watch mileage plummet to single digits (and also smile) all I need to do is mash pedal on the S5, but alternatively if I wanted to really stretch it (and be really bored) the S5 with the V8 could achieve better mileage then the little 4 cylinder due to lower revs. I've said it a million times, mileage isn't a factor of engine size, more how you drive. I'd love to see someone hyper-mile in a W12 vs a I3, and I'm sure my theory would be well borne out.

See the Top Gear comparison of a M3 vs. Prius. Perfect example of this.

I just attended a PCA function where they had four 718s available to drive for 200 attendees to test drive. The placed cleared out pretty quickly and I did not see a single person looking to buy one.

[911monty]

The new issue of Panorama states "Boxster sales are down but Caymen sales are up 25%". This is probably due to the Caymen being cheaper due to the new pricing structure.

[shadrach74]

Emissions are generated by quantity of fuel burned and the efficiency ratio (lean or rich of stoic) at which said quantity of fuel is burned.

Efficiency is a measure of how much power is extracted from the fuel burned and is affected by timing, compression ratio, efficiency ratio, frictional losses, rotating mass and Cd. (Perhaps I've missed something?)

The new 4s run lower compression pistons and are therefore less thermally efficient in that area. Perhaps the new car can run leaner ER than the old one. The new 4s have less reciprocating mass; so gain some efficiency there.

I would bet that at full song, the old 6 would compare favorably to the new 2L 4 in terms of efficiency.

But then Porsche does not car so long as it performs well under the guidelines of the regs.