HOW is an old Boxster more robust than Jeeps and Trucks??

[CoBeerToad]

Originally Posted by Need_for_speed

I don't understand something. I know the same people make different named cars, but what is the difference between Honda and Acura? Or Dodge and Ram?

[jb92563]

Graph means what?

So out of 100 Porsches on any particular day of the year, on average that sampling showed that there were 97 "problems" evident in those 100?

Or over the life of those 100 cars they cumulatively had 97 problems at some point in time?

As the 2nd owner of a 99 Jeep Wrangler, having owned it for the last 10 years, I have only replaced a cracked header, and a starter motor after numerous submersion's in the lake while launching Seadoo's.

No current issues, so how does that translate to those statistics?

Lies, damned lies and statistics, its all the same.

[paulofto]

I had an '89 Jeep Cherokee Limited, a black one with a gold stripe, very retro looking today but the height of suburban modernity back in the early '90's. Anyway this thing was great for the first 3 or 4 years but then, like a synchronized demolition, everything started to fail at once. Radiator, A/C, 4 wheel diff, clear coat paint finish, wheel bearings . . the entire vehicle fell apart. It's like a timer went off. I'll never own another Jeep product again.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, I bought a 2005 Ford Escape 'No Boundaries' Edition new from the dealer in 2004 and still have it. Other than a transmission issue in 2009 covered under warranty this thing has been bullet proof (knock on wood). i may keep it forever.

PS Retroman, I love your whole "Red Green" persona . . . Possum Lodge and all. When i used to live in Southern Ontario I'd see Steve Smith (aka Red Green) once in awhile out and about around Hamliton. He's a genuinely nice guy and a great ambassador for duct tape. In the words of Red 'Keep your stick on the ice'.

[Need_for_speed]

Originally Posted by jb92563

Graph means what?

So out of 100 Porsches on any particular day of the year, on average that sampling showed that there were 97 "problems" evident in those 100?

Or over the life of those 100 cars they cumulatively had 97 problems at some point in time?

As the 2nd owner of a 99 Jeep Wrangler, having owned it for the last 10 years, I have only replaced a cracked header, and a starter motor after numerous submersion's in the lake while launching Seadoo's.

No current issues, so how does that translate to those statistics?

Lies, damned lies and statistics, its all the same.

Here's a potential explanation:

How The Hell Are Porsches So Reliable?

[AmongstEnemies]

Originally Posted by Need_for_speed

Here's a potential explanation:

How The Hell Are Porsches So Reliable?

he isnt asking about the reliability of Porsches

he's asking how to read the graph

//ENDRANT

[Need_for_speed]

Originally Posted by AmongstEnemies

he isnt asking about the reliability of Porsches

he's asking how to read the graph

//ENDRANT

Wow. Sorry AE. Didn't mean to offend or irritate. Just thought it was an interesting commentary on the survey.

I'll go back into my hole...:chicken:

[78F350]

Originally Posted by jb92563

Graph means what?

So out of 100 Porsches on any particular day of the year, on average that sampling showed that there were 97 "problems" evident in those 100?

Or over the life of those 100 cars they cumulatively had 97 problems at some point in time?

As the 2nd owner of a 99 Jeep Wrangler, having owned it for the last 10 years, I have only replaced a cracked header, and a starter motor after numerous submersion's in the lake while launching Seadoo's.

No current issues, so how does that translate to those statistics?

Lies, damned lies and statistics, its all the same.

I was curious, so I looked up the study. Here's a bit that generally explains their method:

The J.D. Power U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS)
focuses on problems experienced by
original owners of 3-year-old vehicles. Study findings are used extensively by manufacturers
worldwide to help them design and build better vehicles—which typically retain higher resale
value—and by consumers to help them make more informed choices for both new and used
vehicles.
Problem symptoms are evaluated in eight vehicle system categories:
• Exterior
• Seats
• The Driving Experience
• HVAC
• Features/Controls/Displays
• Interior
• Audio/Communication/Entertainment/Navigation
• Engine/Transmission
Quoted from: http://www.jdpower.com/sites/default/files/vds_ss_16.pdf

...in the lake while launching Seadoo's.

My SeaDoo's reliability was terrible, they were 90s models. Gave them away and got some old WaveRunners. Those old Yamahas just keep on going.

[stephen wilson]

Originally Posted by CoBeerToad

I don't understand something. I know the same people make different named cars, but what is the difference between Honda and Acura? Or Dodge and Ram?

Dodge Trucks are no longer called "Dodge RAM", just "RAM"
Obviously Acura is the luxury division or Honda, just like Lexus-Toyota, Infiniti-Nissan, GMC-Chevrolet, etc.

I have no idea why reliability would vary by division, such as Acura vs. Honda.

[CoBeerToad]

Originally Posted by stephen wilson

Dodge Trucks are no longer called "Dodge RAM", just "RAM"
Obviously Acura is the luxury division or Honda, just like Lexus-Toyota, Infiniti-Nissan, GMC-Chevrolet, etc.

That makes sense to me. I always thought of the name Honda Acura like I would a Chevy Chevette. Instead I should think of it in the manner I think of a Ford Lincoln as just a Lincoln.

I still think it's weird that some models are able to break away from the manufacturer's name, but I was never involved in marketing so I'm sure there are great reasons for this.