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particlewave 02-26-2016 03:25 PM

Durametric Won't Connect
 
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I did a google search, but none of the results addressed my issue.

I had a Gen1 cable and version 5 of the software, both of which worked fine. I sold that cable and bought a used Gen2.

Now the Gen2 Cable and latest version of the software won't connect to anything but the alarm module.
Laptop specs meet and exceed recommendations, tried it with the power adapter plugged in, tried reseating the cable, restarting computer, checked drivers...all good.

Any ideas before I contact Durametric?

particlewave 02-26-2016 03:26 PM

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particlewave 02-26-2016 04:00 PM

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Just tried it on a different laptop with better specs and got the same result...program will not connect to any modules (except alarm)!

Pirate50 02-26-2016 04:11 PM

I would contact Durametric. I purchased a used cable that had a similar issue. They were helpful, they reset the cable by sending me a file if I recall correctly. It was a few years ago, so forgive my memory. Said they would only do this once. I purchased the cable from someone on eBay that said it only used one VIN. When it wouldn't work I thought I bought a counterfeit so I contacted Durametric and they verified it was a legitimate cable. After I told them how I got the cable they told me they could reset it but only once. Now it works fine.

911monty 02-26-2016 04:43 PM

Particlewave: I had a similar problem with mine. I bought a new Durametric from Pelican about 6 months ago. Was driving me crazy. It would occasionally connect and then fail. I sent back to Durametric for analysis, they found nothing wrong with the one I had but said they had some issues with some from another batch. Long story short, I finally found that the .NET Framework 3.5 sp1, they said it needed did not contain .Net Framework 2.0. I downloaded the 2.0 and it has been working fine since. Good Luck

particlewave 02-27-2016 11:50 AM

Thanks for the suggestions. :)
I ran some updates on the laptop last night and will try again shortly. My guess is that I'll have to contact Durametric.

Edit: the windows updates didn't solve the issue.

jb92563 02-27-2016 03:52 PM

Just a thought, the USB ports on my Laptop have multiple standards ie USB3 and USB2 which can operate at different speeds.

You might want to try all your USB ports just on the outside chance that some ports may stand a better chance of working than others.

jpc763 03-04-2016 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 485206)
Thanks for the suggestions. :)
I ran some updates on the laptop last night and will try again shortly. My guess is that I'll have to contact Durametric.

Edit: the windows updates didn't solve the issue.

Particlewave,

Did you get this resolved? I am having issues with my alarm and ran the durametric last night and although I don't get the error you are seeing, it appears that my durametric is not communicating.

Here is a pic of what I see with the alarm module.

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I noticed that I did not have .NET 2.0 downloaded so I am now downloading it and will try again.

EDIT - The install said I already had it so now I am at a loss.

John

jcslocum 03-04-2016 07:59 AM

Got a new durametric last night installed and it wouldn't initially work. I had to uninstall and then re-install to get it working. I think it had to do with the drivers....

particlewave 03-04-2016 08:47 AM

I've been communicating with Durametric all week and unfortunately, still no luck. :(

A couple things to note:
1) The first time I connected the cable to the computer, I got a message stating that it required a firmware update, which it did on its own immediately.

2) One time when I connected the cable, it auto-detected my car and ECU. However, I could still not connect to the modules.

3) One time the cars info showed up on the ECU module (VIN, ignition range 1/2, etc).

The above leads me to believe that the cable and software do work, but that they don't work consistently. This could be a software issue or a connection issue, so I've checked all my connections and everything looks good.

jpc763 03-04-2016 09:02 AM

I got it to work finally and now have a bunch of alarm faults to figure out.

particlewave 03-04-2016 11:11 AM

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Hi Charles,

Thank you for the information. It seems to be a problem with the cable. Here is the information needed to return your cable for testing and/or replacement.

Your RMA number is: *******

Send the above RMA number along with your Durametric cable to:

Durametric Software
*********

Upon receipt of the cable we will test it and let you know what we find. If we confirm the trouble we'll replace the cable and charge only for return shipping if the tool is beyond the warranty period. Turn-around time is typically 1 - 2 business days.

If you have any questions in the meantime, don't hesitate to ask.
Nice customer service :cool:
:dance::dance::dance:

jpc763 03-04-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jpc763 (Post 485947)
I got it to work finally and now have a bunch of alarm faults to figure out.

The alarm fault screen worked once. :( It now shows no errors again.

particlewave 03-04-2016 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jpc763 (Post 485968)
The alarm fault screen worked once. :( It now shows no errors again.

This sounds a lot like the behavior I was experiencing. The DME showed up once, now nothing. The alarm module will read, but only intermittently.
What OS are you using? CPU and RAM?

jpc763 03-04-2016 12:01 PM

Windows 7 - 64 bit
8GB Ram
i7 processor

I am not sure if other functions are having this problem but I saw it on Alarm for sure.

particlewave 03-04-2016 03:47 PM

I sent mine in to Durametric today, so I will report back when I hear something from them (probably middle of next week).

particlewave 03-10-2016 02:47 PM

Durametric has had my cable for 4 days and still no response from them (was quoted 1-2 days). :(

I'm not getting impatient and I really appreciate their help, the suspense is just killing me! :eek:

particlewave 03-15-2016 06:32 PM

Durametric found nothing wrong with the cable...not really sure where to go from here. I guess I'll have a cable for sale soon. :(

911monty 03-15-2016 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 487506)
Durametric found nothing wrong with the cable...not really sure where to go from here. I guess I'll have a cable for sale soon. :(

They found nothing wrong with mine also. They sent a new one that worked no better. When I tried after free upgrade to windows 10 the .Net framework was identified, installed and now works. Downside is Windows 10.

Krieger 03-24-2016 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 911monty (Post 485168)
Particlewave: I had a similar problem with mine. I bought a new Durametric from Pelican about 6 months ago. Was driving me crazy. It would occasionally connect and then fail. I sent back to Durametric for analysis, they found nothing wrong with the one I had but said they had some issues with some from another batch. Long story short, I finally found that the .NET Framework 3.5 sp1, they said it needed did not contain .Net Framework 2.0. I downloaded the 2.0 and it has been working fine since. Good Luck

How do you do this? am not a computer wizard, but I could figure this out with some help. I am having the same problems connects to engine, but not airbag?

911monty 03-24-2016 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Krieger (Post 488713)
How do you do this? am not a computer wizard, but I could figure this out with some help. I am having the same problems connects to engine, but not airbag?

Krieger: If your Durametric cable is able to auto select your DME then your .Net framework version is likely fine. Basically this is language that allows the application to run. Do you have a seatbelt fault? I believe this would prevent access to the airbag.

particlewave 03-24-2016 01:23 PM

Mine had .net 4.2 or something, so I deleted that and got it back to 3.5, but that did not fix the issue. I can't install anything previous to 3.5 because it's a part of Windows 7.

It does not auto-detect DME. :(

thatguychad 03-24-2016 02:14 PM

First, .Net Framework isn't part of normal Windows updates unless it's already installed. So, Install .Net Framework 2.0 and I guess 3.5 and 3.5 SP1. Or start with 2.0 and 3.5, then run Windows updates to get the service packs.

.Net 2.0 x64 (unsure if you'll need the 32-bit version...you're running a 64-bit OS - which honestly could be part of the problem, see below.)
.Net 3.5
.Net 3.5 SP1 (these are both 32-bit)

Like I said above, a lot of OBDII software wasn't designed for 64-bit OS's and may or may not have 64-bit drivers, I haven't gotten my Durametric yet. If you have an older laptop around, I'd try that. You're both running mid-to-high-end machines that are more than capable of running the software, but could possibly be *too advanced*, depending on the software developer.

edit: per their system requirements, your 64-bit-ness shouldn't be a problem, but you'll want to verify that you have the .Net Framework. I'd try an older laptop if all else fails...not a newer one.

911monty 03-24-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 488764)
Mine had .net 4.2 or something, so I deleted that and got it back to 3.5, but that did not fix the issue. I can't install anything previous to 3.5 because it's a part of Windows 7.

It does not auto-detect DME. :(

My garage computer is a Dell e6400 that was previously running a 32 bit windows 7 OS with the .Net framework 3.5sp1 which Durametric claims is not required in Windows 7. My Durametric ver 6.5 would occasionally auto detect but was limited and would soon fail. According to Durametric windows 7 32 and 64 bit are compatible. I spent a lot of time going through the computer running diagnostics and sent cable back for testing, nothing found, however they replaced the cable. After a couple months of frustration in a fit I wiped the HD clean and installed the free Windows 10. So long DELL. Hooked DM cable up and a pop up window reported I needed .Net Framework 2.0. Installed and I now have a working cable. Wonder if I would have had as much enjoyment if I had simply used my MAC!!

thatguychad 03-24-2016 03:52 PM

Without running a VM (which can introduce many problems), a Mac is not the best computer for this kind of work, and I say this as an avid Mac user of 20+ years. My garage computer is a Dell Latitude D620 dual booting Windows XP and Windows 7. It was cheap (free, actually) and I don't care if it gets maimed by a tool or run over.

911monty 03-24-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by thatguychad (Post 488788)
Without running a VM (which can introduce many problems), a Mac is not the best computer for this kind of work, and I say this as an avid Mac user of 20+ years. My garage computer is a Dell Latitude D620 dual booting Windows XP and Windows 7. It was cheap (free, actually) and I don't care if it gets maimed by a tool or run over.

Had Win 10 not worked on my computer it was going to get maimed AND run over!!!:o

particlewave 03-24-2016 06:23 PM

Downloading the free Windows 10 upgrade now. I hope that fixes it.

thatguychad 03-24-2016 08:09 PM

I think what he's saying is that .Net Framework 2.0 was the solution to the problem. No reason to install the privacy nightmare that is Windows 10.

particlewave 03-24-2016 08:16 PM

You can't install .net 2.0 on a Windows 7 PC.
Windows 7 comes with .net 3.5. If you try to install 2.0, you'll get an error since you already have 3.5.

thatguychad 03-24-2016 08:30 PM

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You can't install .net 2.0 on a Windows 7 PC.
Windows 7 comes with .net 3.5. If you try to install 2.0, you'll get an error since you already have 3.5.

Try this. It's the 32-bit version, but it does install (which I just verified, see screenshot) and may be what's needed. If not, uninstall if you wish.

BFeller 03-25-2016 07:01 AM

I have the same connection issue with a Durametric Cable. I had a vague memory of someone mentioning the cable not seating well, which caused some issue.... I never found the inormation when it became relevant. I remember it was mentiond that little grinding on the cables connection helped it seat better.

Instead, I sent mine to Durametric, it passed their tests. As an IT guy, I did a fresh build with a suitable laptop, stepped through various versions of .net - testing functionanlity at each point. Durametric had reported timing issue with some USB version - i used a known good chip version. Never had success.

Grounding issues seems to be related to many troublehooting tips/suggestions on Durametrics website. Hearing that after market electronics can cause grounding issues the original radio was installed, the on board radar detector removed, even disconnected the IMS Guardian. Still no Joy.

One day, the ODBD connector from under the dash was removed and the Durametric plugged directly into it. It all worked. Mounted the ODBD connector back into the dash - and it never connected again. Even when removing the connector from the dash a second time.

My next step will be ensuring that my cable is seating properly in the ODBD connector. I have a note that mentions one of the ODBD pins can cause connection problems if not seated well.

Krieger 03-25-2016 07:42 AM

I do have a seat belt fault. I had the seat out and figured it would be easy to reset. How do you reset it? I just figured in the Durametric it was in the airbag file.

Krieger 03-25-2016 07:53 AM

Oh shiat! I just plugged in cord to my computer (not car). I ASSumed seat memory file in Durametric was for eletric seats that had a memory position for adjusting seats to the drivers desired position...Okay not a lot of time has past since my last post. My brain is mostly functional sometimes

Krieger 03-25-2016 09:30 AM

Okay, I gave it a try again. I can connect to the Engine and the alarm, but I get the connection error "unable to connect to this module" when I try to connect to the ABS, Airbag, A/C and Seat Memory. I try a different usb port in the computer and the same results. My Boxster is a 99, so I didn't try parking assist or xenon.

particlewave 03-25-2016 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thatguychad (Post 488821)
Try this. It's the 32-bit version, but it does install (which I just verified, see screenshot) and may be what's needed. If not, uninstall if you wish.

I've got that. Your screenshot looks just like mine. :confused:

The Windows 10 install failed. Had to do a Windows 7 repair, so now I'm back to square one. I tried running the software on 2 older desktops with no luck (Durametric 6 failed to open after install).
Trying for the Windows 10 update again. Not sure what else to do. I've tried every computer I own.

I guess I'll check my port as a last resort, but the generation 1 Durametric cable and OBDII readers work fine...

particlewave 03-25-2016 08:30 PM

I finally got Windows 10 downloaded and installed, hoping that would fix something. No change.

I read on rennlist that others were having similar issues and it seemed to be primarily with '99s. Looks like it's probably a software issue.

http://rennlist.com/forums/996-forum/915821-durametric-communication-problem-on-k-line-2-a.html

911monty 03-26-2016 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 488958)
I finally got Windows 10 downloaded and installed, hoping that would fix something. No change.

I read on rennlist that others were having similar issues and it seemed to be primarily with '99s. Looks like it's probably a software issue.

Durametric Communication Problem on K-Line 2 - Rennlist Discussion Forums

Well just for data my build date is 4/98.

particlewave 04-05-2016 06:24 PM

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911monty 04-05-2016 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 490348)
Aaaannnnddd.....got an airbag light today.


Ok. Rant over. I feel slightly better. Wait. No, I'm still thoroughly frustrated.
My wife is getting a new laptop in the coming weeks, so I'll try one more, then I'm done. If it still won't connect, I'm selling this POS and getting a cheap Chinese clone running version 3 of the software. I really have no choice since you can't buy a generation 1 cable anymore unless you luck out and find someone selling one used.

I know how you feel. I may have just been lucky with mine, like you I was ready to run it over. If I was closer I'd connect to my computer just to determine it could work. Hope the new laptop works for you, I tried the same thing with no luck. Obviously my frustration level was at max boil to take a perfect functioning Dell running Win 7 and in a final act of desperation Install Win 10! Now it might as well be an ACER. But it did work. Good Luck

thatguychad 04-05-2016 07:18 PM

If you go the Chinese knock-off Durametric, you'll need a computer running XP. It's possible that it'll run okay on Windows 7 32-bit, but it definitely won't run on anything 64-bit. Just an FYI.


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