Go Back   986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Boxster General Discussions

Post Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-01-2016, 01:50 PM   #41
Registered User
 
BIGJake111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Greenville, S.C.
Posts: 2,670
Garage
If I marketed the car I'd take a no bullcrap approach.

It's faster, it's better almost every way, and it does find routes in heritage... If you want it to sound better though, stop electing governments that treat the EPA as the highest office in the land.

Have a nice day in your new sports car.


I really like the 718, but the sound is by all means the worst aspect, I feel so sorry for sales as they will have to deal with 60% of customers asking where the 2 additional cylinder option is on the build sheet.


That being said, our cars are now the bookend on the other end of the 981 spyder. They have a NA flat 6 that's larger and sounds better then a modern 911 and has two more cylinders than a modern boxster.


(Some kid with a WRX sti with an exhaust that could fit elephant genitalia parks by me at school, it's always been fun to start up the flat 6 beside his flat 4, now I'm gonna savor it just a little more.)

BIGJake111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2016, 01:17 AM   #42
Registered User
 
Pominoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrisZenithBlue View Post
on the bright side.. Subaru owners can now say their car sounds like a Porsche!
I have Subaru wagon as well. Can I say that I have two cars that sound like a Porsche?
__________________
Boxster Base, 2002 Manual, Black.
LN Single Row Pro IMS retrofit.
Pominoz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2016, 04:48 PM   #43
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Mexico, Missouri
Posts: 3
Any idea when the 718 will be at dealers?
gthomas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2016, 05:13 PM   #44
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: ontario
Posts: 377
The sound is easily fixable. If you don't want it to sound like a Subaru just buy some unequal length headers for it.
boxxster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2016, 03:18 AM   #45
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: LB, Germany
Posts: 1,453
A look below the new 718 S:



Regards, Markus
Smallblock454 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2016, 05:44 AM   #46
Registered User
 
BIGJake111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Greenville, S.C.
Posts: 2,670
Garage
Wow I understand it being 4 cylinder now. That is some tight packaging also not the best looking.
BIGJake111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2016, 08:02 AM   #47
Known Gearhead
 
imon_2nd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Fair Oaks, CA
Posts: 91
Garage
I've read up on the 718 and watched more than a few videos. No doubt, it is seriously quicker than any previous Boxster. I predict there will be a healthy aftermarket for custom exhausts to remedy the lame sound of it.

Too bad Porsche didn't go with a 2 liter, 6-cylinder turbo motor. Sure, it would have cost them a few bucks more due to needing an entirely new design as opposed to just truncating the 911 motor to fit a turbo. But, given the profit margins they've got, why not?
__________________
2004 Boxster S
imon_2nd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 11:23 AM   #48
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 162
Quote:
Originally Posted by imon_2nd View Post
I've read up on the 718 and watched more than a few videos. No doubt, it is seriously quicker than any previous Boxster. I predict there will be a healthy aftermarket for custom exhausts to remedy the lame sound of it.

Too bad Porsche didn't go with a 2 liter, 6-cylinder turbo motor. Sure, it would have cost them a few bucks more due to needing an entirely new design as opposed to just truncating the 911 motor to fit a turbo. But, given the profit margins they've got, why not?
Aftermarket exhaust won't add 2 cylinders or change the firing order. Think of an unmuffled 1970's Baja bug, yikes.

And to think they could have designed it with a 270 degree crank, then it would sound amazing! Just like a late model Yamaha R1 or Honda VFR V4...like this:

https://youtu.be/EkiZqwLx6iI
__________________
2002 Lapis Blue Boxster S
navair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 12:36 PM   #49
Known Gearhead
 
imon_2nd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Fair Oaks, CA
Posts: 91
Garage
Hello, Navair. (Navy flyer?)

That little 4-cyl in the YouTube video still sounds wrong to me.

There are exhaust design tricks that can help a 4-banger. Two into one back into two is a method (Dunstall) that sounded great on the Norton 750 back in the old days. Unequal header lengths can do neat things to sound as well. But, as you said, four is not six no matter what.

Cheers,

Dave
__________________
2004 Boxster S
imon_2nd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 01:11 PM   #50
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 162
Quote:
Originally Posted by imon_2nd View Post
Hello, Navair. (Navy flyer?)

That little 4-cyl in the YouTube video still sounds wrong to me.

There are exhaust design tricks that can help a 4-banger. Two into one back into two is a method (Dunstall) that sounded great on the Norton 750 back in the old days. Unequal header lengths can do neat things to sound as well. But, as you said, four is not six no matter what.

Cheers,

Dave
Aero engineer, Fleet support for the Navy.
I remember those pipes, the odd looking 'tee' 2-1-2, right? I had an 850 back in the Cretaceous period...
Roger
__________________
2002 Lapis Blue Boxster S
navair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 02:14 PM   #51
Registered User
 
Finnegan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Oregon
Posts: 455
The tuners will be able to go absolutely crazy with this engine though.
__________________
'04 Midnight Blue Metallic 986
Finnegan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 04:09 PM   #52
Known Gearhead
 
imon_2nd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Fair Oaks, CA
Posts: 91
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finnegan View Post
The tuners will be able to go absolutely crazy with this engine though.
Well, sure, like they do with WRX motors. Jack the manifold pressure up to 24 psi. If the Ford Focus RS can do it, why not? Of course, Ford beefed up the internals of the motor a lot.

Another thing, the mid-engine layout of the Box makes heat dissipation a really big issue. Turning up the wick on the turbo to yield 500 HP will require a boatload of cooling. Will be interesting to see the solutions.
__________________
2004 Boxster S

Last edited by imon_2nd; 06-03-2016 at 04:13 PM.
imon_2nd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 12:14 PM   #53
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,656
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finnegan View Post
The tuners will be able to go absolutely crazy with this engine though.
Not really, because everything is so tight in there there is very little room to play...

ekam is offline   Reply With Quote
Post Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page