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Old 10-02-2015, 09:25 AM   #1
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Not gonna quote you Perfectlap. But your off by a margin. Any vehicle is safe for road use. Depending on the user. The car wasn't safe for any one lacking experience ... well he had experience. And he chose to break the law. Can't blame this and that. Porsche, Audi, VW, Honda, Dodge, Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc... does not condone the actions of what we do behind the wheel. We are all expected to drive with respect, no matter if it's a Porsche GT, F1, or a Honda Civic. We are EXPECTED to act professional where it counts... everywhere! They did not.

The one thing about actual Race Cars...a real race car could have handled the wreck better. Is built to withstand vicious impacts. Now saying this is a race car that has been de....whatever... and that's the reason for death... is wrong. Because why were they speeding. The car didn't force them to speed. A gun didn't appear and threaten their lives if they didn't obey... we all know how guns kill people... and spoons make people fat. This is not the case. They were disobeying traffic laws. They got in an accident...just like any of US could do. And unfortunately paid the ultimate costs. Paul Walker neither the driver were just some random newb. They knew what they were doing and the consequences
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:47 AM   #3
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The quote here is that speed killed him. But according to the M.E. it was getting roasted alive, and not the speed of the impact.

Also, let's remember that Walker was the passenger, legally he wasn't the one who put the pedal to the metal. So it's quiet a different case from the case filed by the family of the driver. It wasn't Walker's fault that he was laying flat atop of the heap of the burning Porsche rubble trapped by his seat belt.

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Old 10-02-2015, 11:56 AM   #4
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If people are going to make the argument that the car should

have had some sort of stability system installed and that the lack thereof is a major contributing factor to the crash, those same people would complain when a stability system is installed and the manufacturer gives the end user the ability to switch it on/off. ex: (Crash happened because manufactuer made the stability system able to be turned on /off...instead of blaming the driver.) That is it in a nutshell...the driver (and passenger) though deceased take no responsibility for their actions and their families by perpetuating these lawsuits continue that legacy.
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Speed and loss of control due to the speed caused the wreck. Not saying it wouldn't happen driving 40mph on city streets. But less likely regardless.

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The quote here is that speed killed him. But according to the M.E. it was getting roasted alive, and not the speed of the impact.

Also, let's remember that Walker was the passenger, legally he wasn't the one who put the pedal to the metal. So it's quiet a different case from the case filed by the family of the driver. It wasn't Walker's fault that he was laying flat atop of the heap of the burning Porsche rubble trapped by his seat belt.
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Speed and loss of control due to the speed caused the wreck. Not saying it wouldn't happen driving 40mph on city streets. But less likely regardless.
Actually those are the same thing. And as I said before, Walker's case is quiet different than Rodas'. He is not responsible for the decision making of Rodas. Neither do Rodas' decisions/errors absolve Porsche in a wrongful death case based on design defect, which is essentially the case that Walker's daughter has brought.
The jury will likely have to weigh the comparative negligence of RODAS as well as that of Porsche, in determining to what extent Porsche's decision making in the seatbelt design, fuel lines and stability control were a factor in Walker's death. People think that Walker was completely liable for all his injuries simply because he got in the car, but the law doesn't work that way. If he were the driver there was a time where "contributory negligence" might have negated all his daughter's claims but those days are past and again, he was the passenger and not the driver. When another passenger, Corey Rudl, died in this car the case settled for $4 million, with the widow also receiving damages from the driver's estate. But Walker's daughter is not obligated to bring suit against Rodas.
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Now saying this is a race car that has been de....whatever... and that's the reason for death... is wrong. Because why were they speeding.
Why were they speeding? Because this is America where ignoring the speed limit is the norm not the exception. It's not Europe where they actually enforce the speed limit with video cameras and where there's no negotiating the ticket. You lose your license. Drivers in America don't have those expectations put on them. In fact, it's not even zero tolerance if you habitually violate the speed limit, you get multiple opportunities to continue driving even after being caught.
And let's not play make believe here and suggest that any damage done to a car above the speed limit automatically absolves a car company of having actively contributed to a fatal accident vs. a survivable accident. If you regularly drive 70 mph when the highway speed limit is 55, why should the car company build a car that won't collapse like a sardine once you take it above 55? By your logic you have no business going over the speed limit in the first place. Yet who in America would buy a car that is only sound up to the speed limit?

And for the record, I wouldn't rule out dismissing this case on certain grounds if I were the judge. But my point is that it would be foolish for Porsche to fight given how many poor decisions they made on safety, both for the occupants' safety as well as that of the public.
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Not gonna quote you Perfectlap. But your off by a margin....
You told PL he's wrong... uh oh, now you've done it




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