Go Back   986 Forum - for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Boxster General Discussions

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-03-2015, 10:56 AM   #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Houston
Posts: 366
Were 986/996 headlights stylish back in the day?

It seems everybody hates on the 996 and 986 headlights whenever these cars get mentioned but the numbers speak for themselves. Porsche was near death with the 993 and the 986/996 drastically turned the company around.

So did people just care less about the headlights back in the day or were they just fashionable at the time and have slowly fallen out of being stylish as time goes on?

__________________
DD summer/winter: 2000 Boxster S
DD spring/fall: 914-6 w/ 3.0L SC Dual Webers

http://imgur.com/a/k0Wtl - My 914-6 Build/Project Story
patssle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 11:19 AM   #2
On the slippery slope
 
JayG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Diego
Posts: 3,346
Garage
much ado about nothing

A percentage didn't like the fact that the 996 and 986 had the same headlights
They felt it cheapened their 911.

Personally I like the look and think both the 986 and the 996 MK2 headlights look very modern
__________________
2004 Boxster S 6 speed - DRL relay hack, Polaris AutoTop DIY
2004 996 Targa Tip
Instructor - San Diego region, 2014 Porsche Performance Driving School
2013 C300, 2010 Jetta 2011 Mazda 3, 1998 Windstar - Dog van , 2004 F-150 "Big Red"
JayG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 12:06 PM   #3
Registered User
 
BIGJake111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Greenville, S.C.
Posts: 2,656
Garage
I'd say they look as good today as they did new. Which is a lot more to be said then for most cars.

(Hondas for some reason seems to always have very modern looking headlights)

Whenever someone complains about the headlights I just think of the 911 GT1 street car and ignore them.

The lights are not idea but I don't really care for the front end of either the 991 or 981, the 981 has too square of headlights and the 991s Classic round lights are a bit out of place among modern cars.


(Random aside, what would a 986 slant nose look like?)

BIGJake111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 12:15 PM   #4
Registered User
 
DrCactus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 452
Garage
Wicked looking car... not crazy about the side mirror look but hey can't win them all !! lol
__________________
DrCactus
DrCactus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 01:19 PM   #5
Registered User
 
Porsche Chick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 560
Are you kidding?

They were much better than the 964 headlights, by far. And slightly better than the 993.

So, yeah, they were quite the thing back in the day.
__________________
2009 Porsche Boxster - Guards Red/Tan
Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that’s what gets you. – Jeremy Clarkson
Porsche Chick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 01:49 PM   #6
Registered User
 
RedTele58's Avatar
Here's a project I'm going to do sometime in the future when I build my ultimate 986 Boxster:

This is a Boxster named "Foxy" that belonged to a forum member here about 7 years ago. It's a fairly straightforwad conversion.

Official 986 to 996 Front-end Conversion Thread

It was a rather pricey project with all new parts, but with having Oklahoma Foreign just an hour away, salvage parts are affordable enough I can do the conversion.

I'm looking for a 2000-2002 Boxster S for the conversion. I've gathered a Generation II 996 GT3 front bumper cover, headlights and fenders. I need the fender liners and a few other items from a Generation II 996 to make the conversion. I also have a spare hardtop, sideskirts and a Aerokit I rear decklid and spoiler to top off the build. I want a built 3.4L engine. In my mind, it will be the ultimate 986 Boxster. Nothing a little time, money and patience can't build!
Attached Images
       
__________________
I think I have a Porsche problem...
RedTele58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 02:35 PM   #7
On the slippery slope
 
JayG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Diego
Posts: 3,346
Garage
That must really piss off some 996 owners
Looks GREAT!
__________________
2004 Boxster S 6 speed - DRL relay hack, Polaris AutoTop DIY
2004 996 Targa Tip
Instructor - San Diego region, 2014 Porsche Performance Driving School
2013 C300, 2010 Jetta 2011 Mazda 3, 1998 Windstar - Dog van , 2004 F-150 "Big Red"
JayG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 02:39 PM   #8
Registered User
 
Bald Eagle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Valparaiso, IN
Posts: 143
When I first saw the Boxster at the Chicago Automobile Show I thought the headlights were a unique design breakthrough, adding a focal point to the front end and announced "this is different... and great!"

I still feel that way and, when I park my Boxster and glance back at it the headlights are the design element that first captures my eye (in a very good way) and the rest of the car makes statements that back up that point.

That said, design is a very subjective thing and I can understand why some might want to deamber or modify it in some way.

But for me, cool then and cool now.

Larry (the Bald Eagle)
Bald Eagle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 03:20 PM   #9
Custom User Title Here
 
particlewave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: WA
Posts: 6,015
Garage
You guys can sugarcoat it all you want, but I've never met a single impartial party that said they were anything less than ugly (except for mine, of course, but I put a lot of work into them to make them unique and not look like giant fried eggs).

A face only a mother (or owner) could love.
particlewave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 03:36 PM   #10
Registered User
 
Pdwight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 2,077
I do not find it that bad

I think it leaves some to be desired, but I think mainly it is a bit of mass hysteria that got worse through the years...considering the car was designed in the middle 90's it could have looked like this

Pdwight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 03:46 PM   #11
Registered User
 
RedTele58's Avatar
Or this eye-candy:
Attached Images
 
__________________
I think I have a Porsche problem...
RedTele58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 04:10 PM   #12
I am my own mechanic....
 
Timco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 3,433
They mark a period of time. Standard bulbs with some litronics. The separated boxes on the tail lights are classic.

Like 2004 frozen in time, and they still have not become dated like retractable lights always are. Vetts, Camero, everyone was hiding the lights for a while.

I think they look perfect for these cars.
__________________
'04 Boxster S 50 Jahre 550 Spyder Anniversary Special Edition, 851 of 1953, 6-sp, IMS/RMS, GT Metallic silver, cocoa brown leather SOLD to member Broken Linkage.
'08 VW Touareg T-3 wife's car
'13 F150 Super Crew long bed 4x4 w/ Ego Boost
Timco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 04:15 PM   #13
Registered User
 
Retroman1969's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 843
I remember when the models first came out and how knocked out we all were about the Boxster, feeling like it was a modern day 356 or 550. I don't recall much being said about the headlights since the focus was on the overall package from consumers, enthusiasts, and the automotive media.
The major complaints appeared to be the fact that the 911 wasn't distinctive enough from the Boxster, and the switch to water-cooled flat 6s ruffled many feathers.
It was just an updated way to keep the signature flowing round pod headlights in the design and we were fine with that.
__________________
"Remember, I'm pulling for ya! We're all in this together."
Retroman1969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 04:56 PM   #14
Registered User
 
Retroman1969's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 843
In fact, let's take a look at some typical headlights of the period.....





















Makes the 986/996 headlights look positively elegant. Admittedly, a company like Porsche was held to greater scrutiny, but still.....
__________________
"Remember, I'm pulling for ya! We're all in this together."
Retroman1969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 05:14 PM   #15
Registered User
 
BYprodriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: O.C. CA
Posts: 3,286
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by patssle View Post
It seems everybody hates on the 996 and 986 headlights whenever these cars get mentioned but the numbers speak for themselves. Porsche was near death with the 993 and the 986/996 drastically turned the company around.

So did people just care less about the headlights back in the day or were they just fashionable at the time and have slowly fallen out of being stylish as time goes on?
I believe you are right on all points. The 1st "modular" light assemblies I saw were on a 2000 996 & I had never liked Porsches other than 928s.
I loved the "modular" light assemblies because they disrupted the body & paint less being all in one unit. Making for more uninterrupted spans of paint, especially important on a small convertible.
__________________
2000 S Speed Yellow LN 3.6L cylinders & pistons, triple row IMSB upgrade, R&R connecting rods, billet tensioner paddle&,oilpump driveshaft.Heads rebuilt by F6I with new valves & springs.Cayman airbox & MAF housing, 996 intake plenum & 75mm T/B. Fabspeedsport converters &Dansk muffler
BYprodriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 05:33 PM   #16
Registered User
 
CHRISP357's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Kuna, Idaho
Posts: 304
Still are stylish! Especially when modded with projectors...
CHRISP357 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 07:03 PM   #17
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHRISP357 View Post
Still are stylish! Especially when modded with projectors...
Very true. That was the first mod I did when I got the car, And love that sharp white cutoff too! But the amber really didn't (and still doesn't) help though.
hancock1701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 07:19 PM   #18
Registered User
 
Joe B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Jackson Hole, Wyoming
Posts: 800
I don't hate my 986 headlights and I didn't in 2003. I think they look great!
Attached Images
 
Joe B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 07:44 PM   #19
Custom User Title Here
 
particlewave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: WA
Posts: 6,015
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedTele58 View Post
Here's a project I'm going to do sometime in the future when I build my ultimate 986 Boxster:

This is a Boxster named "Foxy" that belonged to a forum member here about 7 years ago. It's a fairly straightforwad conversion.

Official 986 to 996 Front-end Conversion Thread

It was a rather pricey project with all new parts, but with having Oklahoma Foreign just an hour away, salvage parts are affordable enough I can do the conversion.

I'm looking for a 2000-2002 Boxster S for the conversion. I've gathered a Generation II 996 GT3 front bumper cover, headlights and fenders. I need the fender liners and a few other items from a Generation II 996 to make the conversion. I also have a spare hardtop, sideskirts and a Aerokit I rear decklid and spoiler to top off the build. I want a built 3.4L engine. In my mind, it will be the ultimate 986 Boxster. Nothing a little time, money and patience can't build!
Why not go all the way?

I plan to do the 997 front end (minus the smiley face bumper vent) before my Signal Green paint job.
Honestly, I'm pretty happy with my front end and the overall look now, but a boy can dream...
$3k for the conversion, $2-4k for a decent paint job




Last edited by particlewave; 09-03-2015 at 08:16 PM.
particlewave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 10:36 PM   #20
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Seattle
Posts: 10
I remember having the 986 as a screensaver back in '00. Loved the headlights back then and still do. Although mod to projectors would be cool.

token 00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page